All around the world homosexual activists are working overtime to silence any opposition, and make sure that dissenters are rounded up and rendered voiceless and powerless. If not jail time or fines, they will do their utmost to get people fired from their jobs if they dare to differ on homosexuality.
Of course they disingenuously seek to tell us that they just want to be free to do their thing in the privacy of their own bedrooms. Don’t believe it for a minute. They are on a holy crusade to rid the world of anyone who dares to suggest that the homosexual lifestyle is wrong, unhealthy or dangerous.
So the Gaystapo are working ceaselessly to harass, persecute and prosecute anyone who does not conform to their image. And they are using an activist judiciary to especially achieve their aims. Hate crimes legislation is a great way to censor any contrary points of view and silence the critics.
So too are various equal opportunity laws and anti-discrimination legislation. They are all being used to great effect by the militant homosexual activists to wipe out any and all opposition to their agenda. It is beginning to look as if there is not much left for them to do except perhaps engage in some public book burnings and establish new Gulags around the world.
Examples of this crusade can now fill books. Indeed, numerous books have appeared of late chronicling and detailing the relentless march of the Gaystapo. One of the most recent episodes occurred at the University of Illinois. There an adjunct professor was fired because of his stance on homosexuality.
He was teaching courses on Catholicism but he lost his job when a student complained that he was guilty of hate speech since he said the Catholic Church teaches that homosexual sex is immoral. The professor, Ken Howell, had sent an email to students preparing for an exam, saying that “Natural Moral Law says that Morality must be a response to REALITY. In other words, sexual acts are only appropriate for people who are complementary, not the same.”
He later said, “My responsibility on teaching a class on Catholicism is to teach what the Catholic Church teaches. I have always made it very, very clear to my students they are never required to believe what I’m teaching and they’ll never be judged on that.”
As one news report mentions, “Cary Nelson, president of the American Association of University Professors, said professors should be able to tell students their own views and even argue in favor of them, provided students can disagree without being penalized. . . . Howell has taught at the university for nine years, and was recognized by his department in 2008 and 2009 for being rated an excellent teacher by students.”
But all this matters little to the aggressive forces of political correctness which now roam our college campuses and any other public arenas. The militant homosexualists and their PC supporters are now on a search and destroy mission to stamp out any voices opposing their agenda.
All their talk of just wanting to be left alone to do their own thing is now seen for what it is: just a smokescreen. They are now using the law to force everyone to embrace their agenda, or face the consequences. They have long moved on from simply seeking acceptance.
They now want complete endorsement, or else. Thus they have used the courts to push this social upheaval. They well know that law can do three things: prohibit, permit, or promote. The West has long ago stopped prohibiting homosexuality. And it in fact has moved on from permitting it.
Now an activist judiciary is promoting the homosexual agenda, and woe to those who dare to resist this attempt at mass social engineering. Indeed, the activists themselves are amazed at how quickly and easily they have been able to transform society.
One Australian homosexual activist wrote an entire book on all this. After mentioning a number of legal victories granting special rights to homosexuals, he says: “I hope all those clever post-modern academics and nostalgic Marxists who have been arguing all these years that we will never achieve equality or liberation under patriarchal capitalist bourgeois democracy have been paying attention.”
Elsewhere the same commentator makes these remarks: “It is astonishing how in recent years the dynamics of gay rights law reform have changed. In the old days (before about 1990), it took years of patient lobbying, petition writing, fundraising and occasional violent demo-going to bring about change. . . . But in recent years, no sooner does the gay and lesbian community think of some new reform, some new right, than gay-friendly politicians positively … rush to put it into law for us. We scarcely even have to ask.”
Exactly right. The forces of political correctness have pretty much got a stranglehold on the media, the political arena, the judiciary, and the school system. All that remains now is to get rid of any last traces of resistance. Kicking people out of their jobs is certainly one way.
Punishing them with fines or imprisonment also works well. And preventing them from having any access to the institutions of power and influence is another effective means. The old ploy of the “long march through the institutions” advocated by Gramsci is nicely coming to pass, and at the vanguard of all this is the militant homosexual brigade.
The price of liberty is eternal vigilance. It seems that we have not been very vigilant of late, given the alarming number of freedoms we have recently lost. And it will only get worse, unless concerned citizens start to stand up and be counted.
Once again, the classic words of Burke must be repeated here: “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”
Homosexuality in the 21st century has now assumed not merely a sexual act but the incarnation of a world view that has come to dominate all of society. My first experience of the tectonic collision between the old Judeo-Christian world view and that of the brave new world, so clearly articulated by Edmund Leach, in the BBC Reith Lectures of 1967, entitled, Runaway World, came about during my time as a teacher during a school, staff meeting in 1997. We were taken by surprise by a young anarchist teacher, not a homosexual himself, who had been given leave, to suggest the promotion of homosexuality throughout the curriculum, as part of the new Equality Bill, the jewel in the Crown of the newly elected Labour Party. Amongst a staff of over eighty, there was hardly a word of protest. Since that time, the public not being sufficiently grounded in Biblical truth have been unable to recognise the incoming tide of Hegelian Marxist ideology that has swept through every hole and crack in the Christendom dam.
Francis Schaeffer said in Chapter 1 “The God Who Is There,” first published in 1968, “Wherever you look today, the new concept holds the field. The consensus about us is almost monolithic, whether you review the arts, literature or simply read the news papers and magazines such as Time, Life, Newsweek, The Listener or The Observer. On every side you can feel the stranglehold of this new methodology – and by “methodology” we mean the way we approach truth and knowing. It is like suffocating in a particularly bad London fog. And just as fog cannot be kept out by the walls or doors, so this consensus comes in around us, until the room we live in is no longer unpolluted, and yet we hardly realize what has happened.”
If politicians have been put at a disadvantage in the both houses of parliament to present a credible defence against homosexuality, how is a parent expected to fair any better when the activists coming spreading their ideology through the school at which their child attends?
David Skinner, UK
The pre-launch to the LGBT History month that is held every February throughout the UK was hosted by the British Museum, whose director, Neil Mcgregor is himself a homosexual. The aim of this event was to introduce children to the fact that homosexuality had existed in all cultures and at all times and is therefore normal.
There is a strange irony in the fact that C.S Lewis in his Screwtape Letters uses the British museum as the location for the devil, Screwtape to urge his junior demon Wormwood to distract and tempt a potential prey to leave off his metaphysical speculation and go and get a deep draught of normality.
Screwtape related to Wormwood the story of previous victim of his who was now safely in Hell. Speaking of this prey he said ….”Once he was in the street the battle was won. I showed him a newsboy shouting the midday paper, and a No 73 bus going past, and before he reached the bottom of the steps I had got him an unalterable conviction that, whatever odd ideas might come into a man’s head when he was shut up alone with his books, a healthy dose of ‘real life’ (by which he meant the bus and the newsboy) was enough to show him that all ’that sort of thing’ just couldn’t be true.”
Little did C.S. Lewis foresee that children were going to be taken not out of the British Museum for a lesson in normal behaviour but were to be taken out of the normal, real and natural world into the British Museum and to take their moral compass from pagan mythology and pederasts, like the Roman emperor (Hadrian who conducted the first Jewish holocaust ever recorded in history) and his boy lover Antinous.
David Skinner, UK
February 6th 2010, I attended the Schools Out conference to commence at the Drill Hall, London, on LGBT (gay – queer, homosexual, pink, pink, whatever). Whilst we waited for the conference to start, icons/role models appeared on a rolling screen, one of whom was Sir Adrian Fulford, High Court Judge and judge on the United Nations International Criminal Court.
He is reported to have said in the Pink Times: “We have suddenly travelled a long way in a very short period of time. To use the language of ‘Star-Trek’, it’s as if the warp-drive has suddenly been attached to LGBT rights…… Pink Law will not be an anomaly but rather the shape of things to come.” http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9698.html/
Incredibly, amongst the rolling stars from the gay hall of fame, appearing on the screen, they put up a picture of Ernst Roehm, a ruthless and violent homosexual who founded the Brown Shirts, otherwise known as the Storm Troopers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%B6hm
Great history lesson – who is going to lead the ‘correction’ and way to ‘normality’?
Ray Robinson
Ofsted, the government agency that has been responsible for inspecting schools since 1995 in the UK will become the instrument of inquisition. It will be peering into the hearts of minds of school to see if any heresy or homophobic blasphemy is taking place. Clearly the doing away of the blasphemy laws has simply been replaced by another, the homophobic blasphemy laws.
The Daily mail reported that “The Government’s childcare watchdog has been heavily criticised after appointing to a senior post an official embroiled in a notorious paedophile scandal. Ofsted has named John Goldup as its social care director – a job which gives him effective control of the protection of youngsters in care homes and nurseries across the UK. At the time of his appointment, Mr Goldup said: ‘I am absolutely convinced that effective inspection and regulation are the key to driving up improvement.’ But during the Eighties and early Nineties, Mr Goldup was the second most senior figure in the children’s department at Islington Council in North London.” http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217982/Top-Ofsted-job-official-embroiled-council-child-sex-scandal.html#ixzz0SxW8fhfR http://www.careleavers.com/blog/john-goldups-appointment-as-social-care-director-at-ofsted-have-your-say.html
David Skinner, UK
I have been of the view for sometime that the gays have been on a diabolic vendetta to wipe out what they have conveniently termed as ” homophobia ” a term designed to derogate the normal relationship between man and woman as being abnormal. To achieve their purpose of course they have managed to put people of their ilk in high places who are making some destructive decisions to society. If they ever get to find God they will learn where their future lies by then of course it will be too late.
Pat Brams
A long time ago, was unthinkable then nobody could even speak the word. Later, became tolerated, then accepted and celebrated.
Now is promoted.
Next step, if nobody do anything: Obligated????
Maria Paula
How about Hetereophobia or vaginaphobia it all sounds a little coarse doesn’t it? I too am sorely vexed by this homophobic claptrap but haven’t we been here before.
Consider 11 Peter 2 v’s 6 where Sodom and Gommorrah were turned to ashes as an example to those that live ungodly. Now we all know that verse but currently that event is laughed at as not factual. But consider the next two verses Where Lot was delivered because he was sorely distressed by the lascivious life of the wicked.
And a very relevant verse 8 that relates to all of the Godly of today.
For the soul of the righteous man living amongst them and seeing and hearing every day of their lawless and lascivious deeds was sorely vexed.
V’s9 But those that walk after the flesh in the lusts of defilement, (NOTE THIS:- Who despise authority, are daring and selfwilled and never tremble to rail against dignitaries. Does that sound familiar?
V’s 18 By vanity they entice with the lusts of the flesh etc
V’s 19 Promising them liberty (coming out I should think) while they themselves are bondservants of corruption.
Ch3 V’s 3 knowing this first that in the last days mockers shall come with mockery walking after their own lusts.
I would recommend the reading of Peter’s second epistle
in all it’s content for it is clearly a description of what the Christians face today.
Gods Judgement will come in due time and we cannot hasten the Lords time but we can pray and hold fast in our trust and faith in God.
Dennis Newland
Given how pathologically destructive this sexual anarchy that the whole culture has embraced actually is, what do these activists think is going to happen when the pendulum swings back the other way? One day the culture as a whole will wake up to the reality that this who exercise in sexual anarchy is incredibly destructive.
The only difference at that time will be that the activists in all their “infinite wisdom” will have succeeded in tearing down all of the road blocks and institutions that might serve as a bulwark against a culture that is bent on getting revenge on these people for the false bill of goods they pedaled.
I wonder if the activists will at that time at least have the honesty to look to themselves as the source of the suffering they will endure at that time.
Jason Rennie
When you have the Anglican Church organisations, such as Anglicare, fostering young children to homosexual and lesbian couples what is the likelihood of the change coming from the Christian community?
The standard reply from Anglicare when questioned about this is:
1.) funding requires us to adhere to equal opportunity guidelines; 2.) only 1% of children fostered out go to homosexual and lesbian couples; 3.) better with homosexual and lesbian couples than on the street, etc.
Now, whilst it is likely that the average Anglican church goer doesn’t know about this situation, but my guess is that there would be little outrage even if it was widely broadcasted — even within the more “evangelical” sections of the Anglican church.
Trevor Grace
Thanks Trevor
And the answers to their replies are these:
1. Then it is time to get off government funding pronto. Start trusting God for a change.
2. There are plenty of heterosexual couples who desire children; why not let them have them?
3. This is the logical fallacy known as the false dilemma. There is a third option – giving them to married heterosexual couples. Adoption and fostering is all about dealing with an emergency, and getting as close back to the family unit as possible – not using kids as political footballs in attempts at radical social engineering.
Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch
Hi Trevor,
I wasn’t aware Anglicare was doing that. Could you substantiate that please as if true that will be the last dollar they ever get from me and i’ll let them know as much.
Why is a group like Anglicare taking government funding in the first place? Don’t they understand that whoever pays the bills calls the shots?
Even if only 1 in 100 children is going into such a situation, that is still 1 _child_ in 100 being put into such a situation.
As for your suggestion “better than on the streets”, you have contradicted yourself here. Either you are being forced by the state to do it, or you are freely placing them because you don’t have enough people to do it otherwise. Which is it? If you are being forced because you are taking the government handout then the answer is simple, stop taking the government handout. If that means the adoption agency can’t exist for lack of fund, then it should not exist. You can never ever do evil so that good may come of it and that is what is being done here. I am very disappointed with the Anglican Church for doing this if true. If it is for lack of people to take the kids in, then perhaps you should be trying to get more couples in. I’ve never heard of this shortage being mentioned in the Anglican church I attend. Why not?
Whatever you think of the Catholic Church, I really admire that they are unwilling to compromise the truth and be complicit in evil when they are told, “If you want to be an adoption agency you must allow for homosexuals to adopt”. They have fortitude to close their doors and do the right thing.
If Anglicare is doing this, I am not buying the excuses presented as they are contradictory and amount to being complicit in evil.
Jason Rennie
You have got me well and truly scared, Bill. I’ve never allowed myself to imagine that things had got so bad. That you now have homosexuals everywhere, in every walk of life, so it seems, is proof that it’s a lifestyle choice, and a political ideology; and something that could so easily be given up for celibacy or marriage. I remember when you would only see homosexuals in hairdressers, or in the entertainment industry – now they are teaching our children! And what exactly are they teaching them?
There is a homosexual music teacher at my son’s school, and I have told him to avoid him, and not say anything to him. I will be talking to the head teacher if they dare to put my son in that man’s class. Goodness knows they fill his head with enough rubbish as it is.
And David Skinner is right to mention CS Lewis in connection to the British Museum. That place is the devil’s work. It’s a temple to the THEORY of evolution and Darwinism, with no placards for the biblical worldview.
Barbara Murray-Leach
Jason Rennie re: substantiating the claims that Anglicare is fostering young children to homosexual and lesbian couples (and have been doing so for sometime) I do have plenty of evidence, for a starters:
1) a letter from Anglicare saying the orginisation foster young children to homosexual and lesbian couples; and 2) a letter from Anglicare CEO providing a more detail explanation on the situation.
I suggest you, or anyone else who is truly concerned, send an email to Anglicare CEO, asking for yourselves. Be persistent though.
Trevor Grace
The pity is that altering human laws in no way assuages an acutely troubled conscience. Thus all the ‘concessions’ won by both the pro-choice- & the homosexual lobbies have done nothing to make the relevant recipients any happier.
Arthur Hartwig
We are no longer living in a Christian society and it does seem very likely that open persecution of those who “hold firm and stand fast” will become increasingly common. By God’s Grace may we all stay faithful till the end, no matter what comes against us. In the meantime we need to fast, pray and stand up for Gospel values at every opportunity.
Anna Cook
Dennis Newland, corrupted Christians, if ever they ever were such, will say that Christ never spoke about homosexuality. But the fact of the matter is that he spoke frequently about Sodom. But then the opposition will respond again by saying that the sin of Sodom was inhospitality, not homosexual behaviour, as in Ezekiel 16: 49b: they did not help the poor and needy. But this ignores and denies the reference to “detestable” practices, described in the rest of chapter 16.
Ezekiel 16:44-52: “‘Everyone who quotes proverbs will quote this proverb about you: “Like mother, like daughter.” You are a true daughter of your mother, who despised her husband and her children; and you are a true sister of your sisters, who despised their husbands and their children. Your mother was a Hittite and your father an Amorite. Your older sister was Samaria, who lived to the north of you with her daughters; and your younger sister, who lived to the south of you with her daughters, was Sodom. You not only walked in their ways and copied their detestable practices, but in all your ways you soon became more depraved than they. As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, your sister Sodom and her daughters never did what you and your daughters have done. ‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen. Samaria did not commit half the sins you did. You have done more detestable things than they, and have made your sisters seem righteous by all these things you have done. Bear your disgrace, for you have furnished some justification for your sisters. Because your sins were more vile than theirs, they appear more righteous than you. So then, be ashamed and bear your disgrace, for you have made your sisters appear righteous.
Jeremiah 23:14:
And among the prophets of Jerusalem
I have seen something horrible:
They commit adultery and live a lie.
They strengthen the hands of evildoers,
so that no one turns from his wickedness.
They are all like Sodom to me;
the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.”
Jude 5- 9:
Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
In the very same way, these dreamers pollute their own bodies, reject authority and slander celestial beings.
However, apart from the clear biblical references that indicate that the sin of Sodom was adultery licentious and lustful behaviour. Jerusalem itself is deemed to be guilty of worse and abortion. Ezekiel 16:15- 22
David Skinner, UK
Arthur Hartwig, one often hears the claim that the depression, physical disease, social exclusion etc are the result of society’s lack of acceptance. But the truth is that no matter how accepting society becomes the underlying needs of the homosexual can never be met by continuing with the practice. For society to continue encouraging homosexuality would be like encouraging an addiction – done out kindness and compassion maybe, but terribly misguided.
“They have long moved on from simply seeking acceptance” – Yes, and some people don’t realise this; but what you say is absolutely right. They are, as I always say, the “Gay Power” movement; it’s all about power.
“”But in recent years … than gay-friendly politicians positively … rush to put it into law for us. We scarcely even have to ask.”” – But this will change, in time; nothing lasts for ever, particularly something as nasty (should that be “Nazi”?) as this; but it’s a case of how many people will be damaged in the meantime.
John Thomas, UK
With regard to John Thomas’ statement that the gays have moved on from simply seeking acceptance, gays have for a long time argued that their relationship are private affairs and that what they do behind closed doors is none of our business. In which case we should agree, but point out that they cannot have it both ways – a private act which in our hearts we condemn but to which we are being coerced to give public recognition.
When Tolerance Isn’t Enough: http://www.johncorvino.com/article_archive/31583.html http://www.johncorvino.com/video%20clips.html
Clearly when it comes to private behaviour that we might abhor, but which we are nevertheless asked to publicly affirm, there appears to be no difference between public and private morality. But when it comes to criticising or commenting on deeds that by any standards are shameful, the distinction between private and public worlds, are mysteriously invoked.
The government is due to bring out compulsory sex education for children as young as five. We are told however that this will not concentrate on sex but on personal relationships.
But for a teacher to say that children ”ought” to use sex for building personal relationships in this true sense, would discriminate against those children who have been raised in households where sexual activity is a recreational activity divorced from creating personal relationships, such as husband and wife, to where partners are not personally related (where mothers have children by several different men or men have children from several different women, or who come in all shapes and sizes and last any duration). According to the Commission of Equality and Human Rights this would breach their human rights. Such teachers could be accused of discrimination and inciting relational hatred towards those relationships that are polysexual.
David Skinner, UK
Lord Monson, during a debate, in the House of Lords, on the 3rd March, 2008, recounting a previous debate, fifty years ago, when the Wolfenden Report resulted in a relaxation of the homosexual laws, there was a voice of disquiet then: “Yes, the Wolfenden proposals are all very well, but they are the thin end of the wedge. The pendulum is bound to swing too far in the other direction. Mark my words, before many years are out, they”—the more militant homosexuals and not, of course, the ordinary discreet sort—“will demand not merely toleration for their sexual activities—no problem about that—but positive respect, even admiration, for them”. ‘To which I (Lord Monson) replied, “Oh, come on. Nonsense. You’re being alarmist”. ‘With hindsight, I have to say that I was wrong and they were right.’
With regard to the Wolfenden Committee Report, H.L.A. Hart, Professor of Jurisprudence Oxford Unversity, wrote, in 1959, “.. it does not follow that everything to which the moral vetoes of accepted morality attach is of equal importance to society, nor is there the slightest reason for thinking of morality as a seamless web; one which will fall to pieces, carrying society with it, unless all its emphatic vetoes are enforced by law. Surely even if in the face of the moral feeling that is up to concert pitch – the trio of ‘intolerance, indignation and disgust’ – we must…ask whether a practice which offends moral feeling is harmful, independently of its repercussion on the general moral code. Secondly, what about repercussion on the moral code? Is it really true that failure to translate this item of general morality into criminal law will jeopardize the whole fabric of morality and so of society”.
Well, Professor we have seen precisely the results of this experiment conducted over a fifty year period.
David Skinner, UK
We have to mount a rhetorical offensive that works. I think the best thing is to present the big picture from the historic viewpoint and then document the consequences. In other words, we have rates of violent crime and other social problems that are four to five times higher than in the Sixties when the sexual revolution started. Then one stigma fell at a time – premarital sex, standards about nudity and pornography, casual divorce attitudes and rules, wife-swapping and other experimental relationships, and now homosexuality. The common denominator is that they are all deviations from the universal and historic standard that sex should be within the framework of a marriage between one man and one woman. Here’s the point: If you convincingly connect the one trend with the other, reasonable people will see the point and start pushing back because we’re not talking about the 3% who are gay but the 97% who want to have a humane social order that maximizes the framework of love within which people should be raised.
John O’Connor
Thanks Trevor. I didn’t doubt you, but I just wanted to know the source of your information. Thanks for clarifying and I will follow up on it. Thanks again. That is truly depressing though.
Jason Rennie
Trevor, you have blown me away with the revelation about Anglicare, I have had some shocks in my Christian life but this has floored me. I cannot believe that they would cave in to this! Bill is right, tell the government to shove their funding for starters, it is really blood money in the figurative sense, I think we need to get some sort of letter drawn up to the Anglican Archbishop to see what he has to say about it. If anybody has any ideas then I am willing to write the letter.
Steve Davis
Thanks Steve
Sadly there are lots of churches and church groups on the government purse string. The temptation is always to compromise on principle and biblical standards in order to keep the money flowing in. It would be good to notify the Anglican hierarchy and hear what they have to say about all this. I am not very hopeful however.
Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch
Bill,
From what I have seen, this Anglican Archbishop Peter Jensen is pretty straight up and down when it comes to matters of faith and doctrine. I was thinking of a letter addressed directly to him, do you think he would address the issue? Trevor, what do you think? Can you supply me with the information so I have something to go on? Bill, have you had any dealings with Peter yourself? I personally have never met him but have heard him speak on a number of topics and he seems pretty pro marriage/heterosexual. Anyway your thoughts would be appreciated.
Steve Davis
Steve Davis, you must surely be aware of the tumult taking place within the Anglican Church, especially that which is happening in Britain, ever since Katherine Jefferts Schori became Archbishop of America in 2006 and her relentless ordination of homosexual and lesbian bishops: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VzLSR2h3ec
Archbishop Peter Jensen is aligned with Archbishop Greg Venables of Argentina, Bishop Akinola of Nigeria, Henry Orombi of Uganda, Jim Packer, Canon Chris Sugden of Anglican Mainstream and others who are engaged in a fierce battle against the apostasy sweeping the Anglican Church: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8537805218963625191#
David Skinner, UK
Thanks David
Yes that second link you provide is a shocker. And she wants to lead the flock of God? No wonder the churches are going down the tubes.
Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch
Steve Davis – Re: Can you supply me with the information so I have something to go on?
I think it’s better as I mentioned previously that those who are truly concerned over the fact that the Anglican Church via Anglicare are fostering young children to homosexual and lesbian couples, simply to ask the CEO Dr Lynn Arnold, email admin@anglicare-sa.org.au
Here you will read, under the subtitle: FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
It states: “If I am single, can I still apply? You can be single, married, or in a defacto relationship, including same-sex couples.”
Hope this helps. I personally think every professing Anglican should be informed of the situation.
Trevor Grace
It seems that too many so-called churches are caving in to meet the trendy new agenda of new age activists of all shapes and sizes. The Anglican church is now allowing women bishops too, and probably gay bishops soon, which will see a lot of British Anglicans defect to Rome. I must admit I’ve no sympathy with the Catholic Church after its appalling cover up of child abuse, and having a son myself, I would be reluctant to trust a Catholic priest with him.
We need to stick to our Christian principles even when the rest of the Christian world seems to be falling apart.
No room for gays. It’s that simple.
Barbara Murray-Leach
Coming to a big public institution near your.
It seems to me good, respectable Christians have distorted Philippians 4:8 …“whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.” into “See no evil. Hear no evil“. They are not interested into going into the very heart of the enemy camp to hear what they are saying and when some poor, sad person does and comes back to report it, they shut him up.
I am speaking autobiographically of course, but Stephen Green of Christianvoice gives a very comprehensive outline of what I paid £160 to go and witness on 2nd July in the British Library. http://www.christianvoice.org.uk/Press/press161.html
David Skinner, UK
This is a great blog, Bill. I’m from New York and I hope that coordination between our two countries and the UK on this issue will increase. One of the worrisome things right now is a law suit that will likely go to the Supreme Court and which, if it goes the wrong way, will invalidate all the state-level laws about same-sex marriage. Two high-profile lawyers are on the other side. Their thinking is based on two related words – equality and discrimination. I think we should state forthrightly that discrimination isn’t always wrong! Marriage has always about society giving favorable treatment to a man and a woman entering into marriage so that society has the stability of having the maximum number of people raised by a father and a mother. I got a federal job in Washington years ago based partly on my status as a disabled combat veteran. Society benefits from that kind of favoritism (we need people to fight the wars), and so why not. Equality is great but not for every conceivable situation.
John O’Connor, New York
Thanks David Skinner, yes I am aware of the problems in the Anglican church regarding the ordination of homosexuals etc. but this is not actually happening in Australia as far as I am aware. As stated in my previous post, my impression of Peter Jensen is that he is doctrinally sound and dead against this sordid business going on in the church at the moment. I know about the block of archbishops who are involved in a battle against the liberalism that is weeping through the Anglican Church at the moment and it is tough going. Thank you Trevor for your information and I will correspond with the CEO of Anglicare to see what she says. I will post the reply here when I get it.
Steve Davis
If there ever an appropriate time to suffer a little persecution for speaking out against militant homosexuality it’s now before the coming Vic State election. I dont think the family unit could survive another term of John Brumby and Rob Hulls.
Anthony McGregor
Much of what has been commented on is encapsulated in the following….
“The reason why the homosexual community works so hard and fights so tenaciously to become accepted in society, the very reason why they want church leaders to sanctify their abomination & their lifestyle by ordaining them into ministry, the reason why they want society to bless their vile acts, and the reason is because guilt…guilt because deep down these men and women created in God’s own image, know that their lifestyle is an abomination to the Lord. It is unnatural and they want church leaders to sanction what God could never sanction. They know that, and deep down they feel the guilt, so they look to anyone who would say “That’s really your own business”, and because of the nature of guilt acceptance is not enough. So the next step they want, not just acceptance, is the promotion of the lifestyle. They want to be treated as elite, but that’s not going to be enough, you see nothing is enough when guilt is seething in the conscience – nothing is enough”. -Michael Youssef Ph.D
Grant Weedall
David Skinner, if they included Rohm in their hall of fame did they do it out of ignorance of his thuggish nature or did they do it eyes wide open?
Thanks for your information as usual.
John Snowden
Can you feel the heat?? Lets pray!!
Jane Byrne
Indeed. Let’s pray. It is only His supernatural power at this point that will save the church and society from becoming the victim of fuzzy, self-indulgent modes of thought. And this isn’t just about gays; they are only at the last stage of a 40-year revolution in sexual attitudes that has been a wrecking ball for children and in turn for a humane social order. God has allowed this to emphasize our dependence on Him and, so yes, let’s pray.
John O’Connor
Homosexuality in the 21st century has now assumed not merely a sexual act but the incarnation of a world view that has come to dominate all of society. My first experience of the tectonic collision between the old Judeo-Christian world view and that of the brave new world, so clearly articulated by Edmund Leach, in the BBC Reith Lectures of 1967, entitled, Runaway World, came about during my time as a teacher during a school, staff meeting in 1997. We were taken by surprise by a young anarchist teacher, not a homosexual himself, who had been given leave, to suggest the promotion of homosexuality throughout the curriculum, as part of the new Equality Bill, the jewel in the Crown of the newly elected Labour Party. Amongst a staff of over eighty, there was hardly a word of protest. Since that time, the public not being sufficiently grounded in Biblical truth have been unable to recognise the incoming tide of Hegelian Marxist ideology that has swept through every hole and crack in the Christendom dam.
Francis Schaeffer said in Chapter 1 “The God Who Is There,” first published in 1968, “Wherever you look today, the new concept holds the field. The consensus about us is almost monolithic, whether you review the arts, literature or simply read the news papers and magazines such as Time, Life, Newsweek, The Listener or The Observer. On every side you can feel the stranglehold of this new methodology – and by “methodology” we mean the way we approach truth and knowing. It is like suffocating in a particularly bad London fog. And just as fog cannot be kept out by the walls or doors, so this consensus comes in around us, until the room we live in is no longer unpolluted, and yet we hardly realize what has happened.”
If politicians have been put at a disadvantage in the both houses of parliament to present a credible defence against homosexuality, how is a parent expected to fair any better when the activists coming spreading their ideology through the school at which their child attends?
David Skinner, UK
The pre-launch to the LGBT History month that is held every February throughout the UK was hosted by the British Museum, whose director, Neil Mcgregor is himself a homosexual. The aim of this event was to introduce children to the fact that homosexuality had existed in all cultures and at all times and is therefore normal.
There is a strange irony in the fact that C.S Lewis in his Screwtape Letters uses the British museum as the location for the devil, Screwtape to urge his junior demon Wormwood to distract and tempt a potential prey to leave off his metaphysical speculation and go and get a deep draught of normality.
Screwtape related to Wormwood the story of previous victim of his who was now safely in Hell. Speaking of this prey he said ….”Once he was in the street the battle was won. I showed him a newsboy shouting the midday paper, and a No 73 bus going past, and before he reached the bottom of the steps I had got him an unalterable conviction that, whatever odd ideas might come into a man’s head when he was shut up alone with his books, a healthy dose of ‘real life’ (by which he meant the bus and the newsboy) was enough to show him that all ’that sort of thing’ just couldn’t be true.”
Little did C.S. Lewis foresee that children were going to be taken not out of the British Museum for a lesson in normal behaviour but were to be taken out of the normal, real and natural world into the British Museum and to take their moral compass from pagan mythology and pederasts, like the Roman emperor (Hadrian who conducted the first Jewish holocaust ever recorded in history) and his boy lover Antinous.
David Skinner, UK
February 6th 2010, I attended the Schools Out conference to commence at the Drill Hall, London, on LGBT (gay – queer, homosexual, pink, pink, whatever). Whilst we waited for the conference to start, icons/role models appeared on a rolling screen, one of whom was Sir Adrian Fulford, High Court Judge and judge on the United Nations International Criminal Court.
He is reported to have said in the Pink Times: “We have suddenly travelled a long way in a very short period of time. To use the language of ‘Star-Trek’, it’s as if the warp-drive has suddenly been attached to LGBT rights…… Pink Law will not be an anomaly but rather the shape of things to come.”
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9698.html/
Incredibly, amongst the rolling stars from the gay hall of fame, appearing on the screen, they put up a picture of Ernst Roehm, a ruthless and violent homosexual who founded the Brown Shirts, otherwise known as the Storm Troopers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%B6hm
And from the horse’s mouth:
http://www.johannhari.com/archive/article.php?id=407
David Skinner, UK
Great history lesson – who is going to lead the ‘correction’ and way to ‘normality’?
Ray Robinson
Ofsted, the government agency that has been responsible for inspecting schools since 1995 in the UK will become the instrument of inquisition. It will be peering into the hearts of minds of school to see if any heresy or homophobic blasphemy is taking place. Clearly the doing away of the blasphemy laws has simply been replaced by another, the homophobic blasphemy laws.
The Daily mail reported that “The Government’s childcare watchdog has been heavily criticised after appointing to a senior post an official embroiled in a notorious paedophile scandal. Ofsted has named John Goldup as its social care director – a job which gives him effective control of the protection of youngsters in care homes and nurseries across the UK. At the time of his appointment, Mr Goldup said: ‘I am absolutely convinced that effective inspection and regulation are the key to driving up improvement.’ But during the Eighties and early Nineties, Mr Goldup was the second most senior figure in the children’s department at Islington Council in North London.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217982/Top-Ofsted-job-official-embroiled-council-child-sex-scandal.html#ixzz0SxW8fhfR
http://www.careleavers.com/blog/john-goldups-appointment-as-social-care-director-at-ofsted-have-your-say.html
David Skinner, UK
I have been of the view for sometime that the gays have been on a diabolic vendetta to wipe out what they have conveniently termed as ” homophobia ” a term designed to derogate the normal relationship between man and woman as being abnormal. To achieve their purpose of course they have managed to put people of their ilk in high places who are making some destructive decisions to society. If they ever get to find God they will learn where their future lies by then of course it will be too late.
Pat Brams
A long time ago, was unthinkable then nobody could even speak the word. Later, became tolerated, then accepted and celebrated.
Now is promoted.
Next step, if nobody do anything: Obligated????
Maria Paula
How about Hetereophobia or vaginaphobia it all sounds a little coarse doesn’t it? I too am sorely vexed by this homophobic claptrap but haven’t we been here before.
Consider 11 Peter 2 v’s 6 where Sodom and Gommorrah were turned to ashes as an example to those that live ungodly. Now we all know that verse but currently that event is laughed at as not factual. But consider the next two verses Where Lot was delivered because he was sorely distressed by the lascivious life of the wicked.
And a very relevant verse 8 that relates to all of the Godly of today.
For the soul of the righteous man living amongst them and seeing and hearing every day of their lawless and lascivious deeds was sorely vexed.
V’s9 But those that walk after the flesh in the lusts of defilement, (NOTE THIS:- Who despise authority, are daring and selfwilled and never tremble to rail against dignitaries. Does that sound familiar?
V’s 18 By vanity they entice with the lusts of the flesh etc
V’s 19 Promising them liberty (coming out I should think) while they themselves are bondservants of corruption.
Ch3 V’s 3 knowing this first that in the last days mockers shall come with mockery walking after their own lusts.
I would recommend the reading of Peter’s second epistle
in all it’s content for it is clearly a description of what the Christians face today.
Gods Judgement will come in due time and we cannot hasten the Lords time but we can pray and hold fast in our trust and faith in God.
Dennis Newland
Given how pathologically destructive this sexual anarchy that the whole culture has embraced actually is, what do these activists think is going to happen when the pendulum swings back the other way? One day the culture as a whole will wake up to the reality that this who exercise in sexual anarchy is incredibly destructive.
The only difference at that time will be that the activists in all their “infinite wisdom” will have succeeded in tearing down all of the road blocks and institutions that might serve as a bulwark against a culture that is bent on getting revenge on these people for the false bill of goods they pedaled.
I wonder if the activists will at that time at least have the honesty to look to themselves as the source of the suffering they will endure at that time.
Jason Rennie
When you have the Anglican Church organisations, such as Anglicare, fostering young children to homosexual and lesbian couples what is the likelihood of the change coming from the Christian community?
The standard reply from Anglicare when questioned about this is:
1.) funding requires us to adhere to equal opportunity guidelines; 2.) only 1% of children fostered out go to homosexual and lesbian couples; 3.) better with homosexual and lesbian couples than on the street, etc.
Now, whilst it is likely that the average Anglican church goer doesn’t know about this situation, but my guess is that there would be little outrage even if it was widely broadcasted — even within the more “evangelical” sections of the Anglican church.
Trevor Grace
Thanks Trevor
And the answers to their replies are these:
1. Then it is time to get off government funding pronto. Start trusting God for a change.
2. There are plenty of heterosexual couples who desire children; why not let them have them?
3. This is the logical fallacy known as the false dilemma. There is a third option – giving them to married heterosexual couples. Adoption and fostering is all about dealing with an emergency, and getting as close back to the family unit as possible – not using kids as political footballs in attempts at radical social engineering.
Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch
Hi Trevor,
I wasn’t aware Anglicare was doing that. Could you substantiate that please as if true that will be the last dollar they ever get from me and i’ll let them know as much.
Why is a group like Anglicare taking government funding in the first place? Don’t they understand that whoever pays the bills calls the shots?
Even if only 1 in 100 children is going into such a situation, that is still 1 _child_ in 100 being put into such a situation.
As for your suggestion “better than on the streets”, you have contradicted yourself here. Either you are being forced by the state to do it, or you are freely placing them because you don’t have enough people to do it otherwise. Which is it? If you are being forced because you are taking the government handout then the answer is simple, stop taking the government handout. If that means the adoption agency can’t exist for lack of fund, then it should not exist. You can never ever do evil so that good may come of it and that is what is being done here. I am very disappointed with the Anglican Church for doing this if true. If it is for lack of people to take the kids in, then perhaps you should be trying to get more couples in. I’ve never heard of this shortage being mentioned in the Anglican church I attend. Why not?
Whatever you think of the Catholic Church, I really admire that they are unwilling to compromise the truth and be complicit in evil when they are told, “If you want to be an adoption agency you must allow for homosexuals to adopt”. They have fortitude to close their doors and do the right thing.
If Anglicare is doing this, I am not buying the excuses presented as they are contradictory and amount to being complicit in evil.
Jason Rennie
You have got me well and truly scared, Bill. I’ve never allowed myself to imagine that things had got so bad. That you now have homosexuals everywhere, in every walk of life, so it seems, is proof that it’s a lifestyle choice, and a political ideology; and something that could so easily be given up for celibacy or marriage. I remember when you would only see homosexuals in hairdressers, or in the entertainment industry – now they are teaching our children! And what exactly are they teaching them?
There is a homosexual music teacher at my son’s school, and I have told him to avoid him, and not say anything to him. I will be talking to the head teacher if they dare to put my son in that man’s class. Goodness knows they fill his head with enough rubbish as it is.
And David Skinner is right to mention CS Lewis in connection to the British Museum. That place is the devil’s work. It’s a temple to the THEORY of evolution and Darwinism, with no placards for the biblical worldview.
Barbara Murray-Leach
Jason Rennie re: substantiating the claims that Anglicare is fostering young children to homosexual and lesbian couples (and have been doing so for sometime) I do have plenty of evidence, for a starters:
1) a letter from Anglicare saying the orginisation foster young children to homosexual and lesbian couples; and 2) a letter from Anglicare CEO providing a more detail explanation on the situation.
I suggest you, or anyone else who is truly concerned, send an email to Anglicare CEO, asking for yourselves. Be persistent though.
Trevor Grace
The pity is that altering human laws in no way assuages an acutely troubled conscience. Thus all the ‘concessions’ won by both the pro-choice- & the homosexual lobbies have done nothing to make the relevant recipients any happier.
Arthur Hartwig
We are no longer living in a Christian society and it does seem very likely that open persecution of those who “hold firm and stand fast” will become increasingly common. By God’s Grace may we all stay faithful till the end, no matter what comes against us. In the meantime we need to fast, pray and stand up for Gospel values at every opportunity.
Anna Cook
Dennis Newland, corrupted Christians, if ever they ever were such, will say that Christ never spoke about homosexuality. But the fact of the matter is that he spoke frequently about Sodom. But then the opposition will respond again by saying that the sin of Sodom was inhospitality, not homosexual behaviour, as in Ezekiel 16: 49b: they did not help the poor and needy. But this ignores and denies the reference to “detestable” practices, described in the rest of chapter 16.
Ezekiel 16:44-52: “‘Everyone who quotes proverbs will quote this proverb about you: “Like mother, like daughter.” You are a true daughter of your mother, who despised her husband and her children; and you are a true sister of your sisters, who despised their husbands and their children. Your mother was a Hittite and your father an Amorite. Your older sister was Samaria, who lived to the north of you with her daughters; and your younger sister, who lived to the south of you with her daughters, was Sodom. You not only walked in their ways and copied their detestable practices, but in all your ways you soon became more depraved than they. As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, your sister Sodom and her daughters never did what you and your daughters have done. ‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen. Samaria did not commit half the sins you did. You have done more detestable things than they, and have made your sisters seem righteous by all these things you have done. Bear your disgrace, for you have furnished some justification for your sisters. Because your sins were more vile than theirs, they appear more righteous than you. So then, be ashamed and bear your disgrace, for you have made your sisters appear righteous.
Jeremiah 23:14:
And among the prophets of Jerusalem
I have seen something horrible:
They commit adultery and live a lie.
They strengthen the hands of evildoers,
so that no one turns from his wickedness.
They are all like Sodom to me;
the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.”
Jude 5- 9:
Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
In the very same way, these dreamers pollute their own bodies, reject authority and slander celestial beings.
However, apart from the clear biblical references that indicate that the sin of Sodom was adultery licentious and lustful behaviour. Jerusalem itself is deemed to be guilty of worse and abortion. Ezekiel 16:15- 22
David Skinner, UK
Arthur Hartwig, one often hears the claim that the depression, physical disease, social exclusion etc are the result of society’s lack of acceptance. But the truth is that no matter how accepting society becomes the underlying needs of the homosexual can never be met by continuing with the practice. For society to continue encouraging homosexuality would be like encouraging an addiction – done out kindness and compassion maybe, but terribly misguided.
There are many examples of homosexuals who have gained public acceptance and “got it all” but who still end up in despair.
Bi-polar depression
http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/tv_and_radio/secretlife_documentary.shtml
Elton John’s former lover committed suicide
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/15/elton-johns-former-lover-killed-himself/
Death wish of homosexuals
http://www.timeout.com/london/gay/features/3892.html
Gay website founder ‘yelled Waheey and somersaulted off the balcony’ Suicide of Garry Frisch, founder of Gaydar.com
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=449526&in_page_id=1766&ito=1490
Kevin Greening – risks and drugs and the face of homosexuality
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=506197&in_page_id=1773
BBC television presenter Kristian Digby has been found dead.
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/01/gay-tv-presenter-kristian-digby-found-dead/#
Matt Lucas and the suicide of his ex partner.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1218477/Matt-Lucas-comforted-David-Walliams-ex-husband-Kevin-McGee-commits-suicide.html
Gay men and lesbians are around twice as likely as their straight counterparts to seek treatment for mental health issues and drug and alcohol abuse, a study has suggested.
The research from the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), surveyed more than 2,000 California residents. It found that 48.5 per cent of gays, lesbians and bisexuals had accessed treatment in the last year, compared with 22.5 per cent of straight people.
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13680.html#
Article by Narth Whitehead suicide
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:Lhi8Sx3CiWwJ:www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html+narth+whitehead+suicide+depression&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
Dr. Jeffrey Satinover’s
http://www.narth.com/docs/bioresearch.html
David Skinner, UK
“They have long moved on from simply seeking acceptance” – Yes, and some people don’t realise this; but what you say is absolutely right. They are, as I always say, the “Gay Power” movement; it’s all about power.
“”But in recent years … than gay-friendly politicians positively … rush to put it into law for us. We scarcely even have to ask.”” – But this will change, in time; nothing lasts for ever, particularly something as nasty (should that be “Nazi”?) as this; but it’s a case of how many people will be damaged in the meantime.
John Thomas, UK
With regard to John Thomas’ statement that the gays have moved on from simply seeking acceptance, gays have for a long time argued that their relationship are private affairs and that what they do behind closed doors is none of our business. In which case we should agree, but point out that they cannot have it both ways – a private act which in our hearts we condemn but to which we are being coerced to give public recognition.
When Tolerance Isn’t Enough: http://www.johncorvino.com/article_archive/31583.html
http://www.johncorvino.com/video%20clips.html
Why moral approval is demanded: http://www.365gay.com/features/082908-corvino/
Clearly when it comes to private behaviour that we might abhor, but which we are nevertheless asked to publicly affirm, there appears to be no difference between public and private morality. But when it comes to criticising or commenting on deeds that by any standards are shameful, the distinction between private and public worlds, are mysteriously invoked.
The government is due to bring out compulsory sex education for children as young as five. We are told however that this will not concentrate on sex but on personal relationships.
But for a teacher to say that children ”ought” to use sex for building personal relationships in this true sense, would discriminate against those children who have been raised in households where sexual activity is a recreational activity divorced from creating personal relationships, such as husband and wife, to where partners are not personally related (where mothers have children by several different men or men have children from several different women, or who come in all shapes and sizes and last any duration). According to the Commission of Equality and Human Rights this would breach their human rights. Such teachers could be accused of discrimination and inciting relational hatred towards those relationships that are polysexual.
David Skinner, UK
Lord Monson, during a debate, in the House of Lords, on the 3rd March, 2008, recounting a previous debate, fifty years ago, when the Wolfenden Report resulted in a relaxation of the homosexual laws, there was a voice of disquiet then: “Yes, the Wolfenden proposals are all very well, but they are the thin end of the wedge. The pendulum is bound to swing too far in the other direction. Mark my words, before many years are out, they”—the more militant homosexuals and not, of course, the ordinary discreet sort—“will demand not merely toleration for their sexual activities—no problem about that—but positive respect, even admiration, for them”. ‘To which I (Lord Monson) replied, “Oh, come on. Nonsense. You’re being alarmist”. ‘With hindsight, I have to say that I was wrong and they were right.’
With regard to the Wolfenden Committee Report, H.L.A. Hart, Professor of Jurisprudence Oxford Unversity, wrote, in 1959, “.. it does not follow that everything to which the moral vetoes of accepted morality attach is of equal importance to society, nor is there the slightest reason for thinking of morality as a seamless web; one which will fall to pieces, carrying society with it, unless all its emphatic vetoes are enforced by law. Surely even if in the face of the moral feeling that is up to concert pitch – the trio of ‘intolerance, indignation and disgust’ – we must…ask whether a practice which offends moral feeling is harmful, independently of its repercussion on the general moral code. Secondly, what about repercussion on the moral code? Is it really true that failure to translate this item of general morality into criminal law will jeopardize the whole fabric of morality and so of society”.
Well, Professor we have seen precisely the results of this experiment conducted over a fifty year period.
David Skinner, UK
We have to mount a rhetorical offensive that works. I think the best thing is to present the big picture from the historic viewpoint and then document the consequences. In other words, we have rates of violent crime and other social problems that are four to five times higher than in the Sixties when the sexual revolution started. Then one stigma fell at a time – premarital sex, standards about nudity and pornography, casual divorce attitudes and rules, wife-swapping and other experimental relationships, and now homosexuality. The common denominator is that they are all deviations from the universal and historic standard that sex should be within the framework of a marriage between one man and one woman. Here’s the point: If you convincingly connect the one trend with the other, reasonable people will see the point and start pushing back because we’re not talking about the 3% who are gay but the 97% who want to have a humane social order that maximizes the framework of love within which people should be raised.
John O’Connor
Thanks Trevor. I didn’t doubt you, but I just wanted to know the source of your information. Thanks for clarifying and I will follow up on it. Thanks again. That is truly depressing though.
Jason Rennie
Trevor, you have blown me away with the revelation about Anglicare, I have had some shocks in my Christian life but this has floored me. I cannot believe that they would cave in to this! Bill is right, tell the government to shove their funding for starters, it is really blood money in the figurative sense, I think we need to get some sort of letter drawn up to the Anglican Archbishop to see what he has to say about it. If anybody has any ideas then I am willing to write the letter.
Steve Davis
Thanks Steve
Sadly there are lots of churches and church groups on the government purse string. The temptation is always to compromise on principle and biblical standards in order to keep the money flowing in. It would be good to notify the Anglican hierarchy and hear what they have to say about all this. I am not very hopeful however.
Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch
Bill,
From what I have seen, this Anglican Archbishop Peter Jensen is pretty straight up and down when it comes to matters of faith and doctrine. I was thinking of a letter addressed directly to him, do you think he would address the issue? Trevor, what do you think? Can you supply me with the information so I have something to go on? Bill, have you had any dealings with Peter yourself? I personally have never met him but have heard him speak on a number of topics and he seems pretty pro marriage/heterosexual. Anyway your thoughts would be appreciated.
Steve Davis
Steve Davis, you must surely be aware of the tumult taking place within the Anglican Church, especially that which is happening in Britain, ever since Katherine Jefferts Schori became Archbishop of America in 2006 and her relentless ordination of homosexual and lesbian bishops: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VzLSR2h3ec
To get a flavour of this woman’s sneering contempt and arrogance just watch this video, recorded in 2007: http://babybluecafe.blogspot.com/2008/01/standfirm-katharine-jefferts-schoris.html
Archbishop Peter Jensen is aligned with Archbishop Greg Venables of Argentina, Bishop Akinola of Nigeria, Henry Orombi of Uganda, Jim Packer, Canon Chris Sugden of Anglican Mainstream and others who are engaged in a fierce battle against the apostasy sweeping the Anglican Church: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8537805218963625191#
David Skinner, UK
Thanks David
Yes that second link you provide is a shocker. And she wants to lead the flock of God? No wonder the churches are going down the tubes.
Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch
Steve Davis – Re: Can you supply me with the information so I have something to go on?
I think it’s better as I mentioned previously that those who are truly concerned over the fact that the Anglican Church via Anglicare are fostering young children to homosexual and lesbian couples, simply to ask the CEO Dr Lynn Arnold, email admin@anglicare-sa.org.au
Or if you simply want to see it written into Anglicare’s fostering policy go via Anglicare website http://www.anglicare-sa.org.au/faqs-2/
Here you will read, under the subtitle: FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
It states: “If I am single, can I still apply? You can be single, married, or in a defacto relationship, including same-sex couples.”
Hope this helps. I personally think every professing Anglican should be informed of the situation.
Trevor Grace
It seems that too many so-called churches are caving in to meet the trendy new agenda of new age activists of all shapes and sizes. The Anglican church is now allowing women bishops too, and probably gay bishops soon, which will see a lot of British Anglicans defect to Rome. I must admit I’ve no sympathy with the Catholic Church after its appalling cover up of child abuse, and having a son myself, I would be reluctant to trust a Catholic priest with him.
We need to stick to our Christian principles even when the rest of the Christian world seems to be falling apart.
No room for gays. It’s that simple.
Barbara Murray-Leach
Coming to a big public institution near your.
It seems to me good, respectable Christians have distorted Philippians 4:8 …“whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.” into “See no evil. Hear no evil“. They are not interested into going into the very heart of the enemy camp to hear what they are saying and when some poor, sad person does and comes back to report it, they shut him up.
I am speaking autobiographically of course, but Stephen Green of Christianvoice gives a very comprehensive outline of what I paid £160 to go and witness on 2nd July in the British Library.
http://www.christianvoice.org.uk/Press/press161.html
David Skinner, UK
This is a great blog, Bill. I’m from New York and I hope that coordination between our two countries and the UK on this issue will increase. One of the worrisome things right now is a law suit that will likely go to the Supreme Court and which, if it goes the wrong way, will invalidate all the state-level laws about same-sex marriage. Two high-profile lawyers are on the other side. Their thinking is based on two related words – equality and discrimination. I think we should state forthrightly that discrimination isn’t always wrong! Marriage has always about society giving favorable treatment to a man and a woman entering into marriage so that society has the stability of having the maximum number of people raised by a father and a mother. I got a federal job in Washington years ago based partly on my status as a disabled combat veteran. Society benefits from that kind of favoritism (we need people to fight the wars), and so why not. Equality is great but not for every conceivable situation.
John O’Connor, New York
Thanks David Skinner, yes I am aware of the problems in the Anglican church regarding the ordination of homosexuals etc. but this is not actually happening in Australia as far as I am aware. As stated in my previous post, my impression of Peter Jensen is that he is doctrinally sound and dead against this sordid business going on in the church at the moment. I know about the block of archbishops who are involved in a battle against the liberalism that is weeping through the Anglican Church at the moment and it is tough going. Thank you Trevor for your information and I will correspond with the CEO of Anglicare to see what she says. I will post the reply here when I get it.
Steve Davis
If there ever an appropriate time to suffer a little persecution for speaking out against militant homosexuality it’s now before the coming Vic State election. I dont think the family unit could survive another term of John Brumby and Rob Hulls.
Anthony McGregor
Much of what has been commented on is encapsulated in the following….
“The reason why the homosexual community works so hard and fights so tenaciously to become accepted in society, the very reason why they want church leaders to sanctify their abomination & their lifestyle by ordaining them into ministry, the reason why they want society to bless their vile acts, and the reason is because guilt…guilt because deep down these men and women created in God’s own image, know that their lifestyle is an abomination to the Lord. It is unnatural and they want church leaders to sanction what God could never sanction. They know that, and deep down they feel the guilt, so they look to anyone who would say “That’s really your own business”, and because of the nature of guilt acceptance is not enough. So the next step they want, not just acceptance, is the promotion of the lifestyle. They want to be treated as elite, but that’s not going to be enough, you see nothing is enough when guilt is seething in the conscience – nothing is enough”. -Michael Youssef Ph.D
Grant Weedall
David Skinner, if they included Rohm in their hall of fame did they do it out of ignorance of his thuggish nature or did they do it eyes wide open?
Thanks for your information as usual.
John Snowden
Can you feel the heat?? Lets pray!!
Jane Byrne
Indeed. Let’s pray. It is only His supernatural power at this point that will save the church and society from becoming the victim of fuzzy, self-indulgent modes of thought. And this isn’t just about gays; they are only at the last stage of a 40-year revolution in sexual attitudes that has been a wrecking ball for children and in turn for a humane social order. God has allowed this to emphasize our dependence on Him and, so yes, let’s pray.
John O’Connor