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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/11/25/rogue-science-and-biased-media/comment-page-1/#comment-162972</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly right Murray. Well said.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly right Murray. Well said.</p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: Murray Adamthwaite</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/11/25/rogue-science-and-biased-media/comment-page-1/#comment-162970</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray Adamthwaite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just read on Andrew Bolt&#039;s blog about Jon Faine&#039;s excuse for not mentioning the climate emails. He gives his &quot;reason&quot; as follows:
&quot;It suits the conspiracy theorists beautifully... It was a small, even a tiny fragment of a sidebar of a secondary issue to the edge of the periphery of something people were talking about other than the main game.&quot;

This is not merely pathetic but amounts to sheer malfeasance. Here is a media outlet styled as &quot;Your ABC&quot; which refuses to report anything which it deems inconvenient, and in conceited, elitists terms fends off any who would dare object. I didn&#039;t hear talk like that from Mr Faine in regard to &quot;Children overboard&quot;, or the AWB scandal, or the scandals surrounding John Elliott. &quot;Our ABC&quot; (ha-ha) is in the news suppression business - for their own ends, and not the news reporting business!

This scandal is not merely about the scientists - Chris Monckton said about them, &quot;They are not merely bad scientists, they are crooks&quot;; the scandal is about the very people who should be in the business of exposing it - the media!

Murray Adamthwaite</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just read on Andrew Bolt&#8217;s blog about Jon Faine&#8217;s excuse for not mentioning the climate emails. He gives his &#8220;reason&#8221; as follows:<br />
&#8220;It suits the conspiracy theorists beautifully&#8230; It was a small, even a tiny fragment of a sidebar of a secondary issue to the edge of the periphery of something people were talking about other than the main game.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is not merely pathetic but amounts to sheer malfeasance. Here is a media outlet styled as &#8220;Your ABC&#8221; which refuses to report anything which it deems inconvenient, and in conceited, elitists terms fends off any who would dare object. I didn&#8217;t hear talk like that from Mr Faine in regard to &#8220;Children overboard&#8221;, or the AWB scandal, or the scandals surrounding John Elliott. &#8220;Our ABC&#8221; (ha-ha) is in the news suppression business &#8211; for their own ends, and not the news reporting business!</p>
<p>This scandal is not merely about the scientists &#8211; Chris Monckton said about them, &#8220;They are not merely bad scientists, they are crooks&#8221;; the scandal is about the very people who should be in the business of exposing it &#8211; the media!</p>
<p>Murray Adamthwaite</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Halligan</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/11/25/rogue-science-and-biased-media/comment-page-1/#comment-162949</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia Halligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Bill, Only someone who has been moved by the Holy Spirit could write like this so you must love and please Him immensely. It is a gift He has given you and we thank God for it. It has also inspired some very wise comments from your readers which I intend to make full use of. If the Social Darwinists had not blindly followed Darwin&#039;s scientific theory of evolution the aboriginal people of this nation would not have suffered so much but most people do not realise that. I was at a meeting years ago when the &#039;stolen generation&#039; issue was in full swing as our church [Catholic] was right into it and I brought this up. The aboriginal speaker seemed to agree with me but did not seem to understand it enough to talk about it so I felt the point I made was sadly lost on many in the audience. The priest did not clarify things either which I thought he should have done. Apparently they used forms from the department of flora and fauna to decide how much aboriginal blood children on stations etc had. Whether they were quarter caste,  half caste etc etc. This was the criteria they used to decide whether to bring them up in a white society which meant removing them from their mothers. If full bloodedness had not been an issue, because of Darwin&#039;s theory, why wouldn&#039;t the full bloods have been removed as well? It is because Social Darwinists used Darwin&#039;s theory to prove that the aboriginal race was a weaker race and would eventually die out of its own accord. Also why would a government department dealing with aboriginal issues use forms meant to deal with the issues of flora and fauna if full blooded aboriginals had not been thought to belong to this category? It is the same with the theory on climate change. World socialism wants to use this theory to impose its socialist agenda which is a world religion, [worship of Gaia] a world government, [ through the UN] a world economy, [which will be more human] multiculturalism [unrestrained immigration] etc etc. All it will achieve is a totalitarian dictatorship. The days when socialism was influenced by Christianity is long gone I am afraid. God Bless always,
Pat Halligan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Bill, Only someone who has been moved by the Holy Spirit could write like this so you must love and please Him immensely. It is a gift He has given you and we thank God for it. It has also inspired some very wise comments from your readers which I intend to make full use of. If the Social Darwinists had not blindly followed Darwin&#8217;s scientific theory of evolution the aboriginal people of this nation would not have suffered so much but most people do not realise that. I was at a meeting years ago when the &#8216;stolen generation&#8217; issue was in full swing as our church [Catholic] was right into it and I brought this up. The aboriginal speaker seemed to agree with me but did not seem to understand it enough to talk about it so I felt the point I made was sadly lost on many in the audience. The priest did not clarify things either which I thought he should have done. Apparently they used forms from the department of flora and fauna to decide how much aboriginal blood children on stations etc had. Whether they were quarter caste,  half caste etc etc. This was the criteria they used to decide whether to bring them up in a white society which meant removing them from their mothers. If full bloodedness had not been an issue, because of Darwin&#8217;s theory, why wouldn&#8217;t the full bloods have been removed as well? It is because Social Darwinists used Darwin&#8217;s theory to prove that the aboriginal race was a weaker race and would eventually die out of its own accord. Also why would a government department dealing with aboriginal issues use forms meant to deal with the issues of flora and fauna if full blooded aboriginals had not been thought to belong to this category? It is the same with the theory on climate change. World socialism wants to use this theory to impose its socialist agenda which is a world religion, [worship of Gaia] a world government, [ through the UN] a world economy, [which will be more human] multiculturalism [unrestrained immigration] etc etc. All it will achieve is a totalitarian dictatorship. The days when socialism was influenced by Christianity is long gone I am afraid. God Bless always,<br />
Pat Halligan</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Brooks</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/11/25/rogue-science-and-biased-media/comment-page-1/#comment-162914</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This also makes interesting reading:

http://www.climatechangereconsidered.org/

Leon Brooks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This also makes interesting reading:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.climatechangereconsidered.org/" rel="nofollow">www.climatechangereconsidered.org/</a></p>
<p>Leon Brooks</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Brooks</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/11/25/rogue-science-and-biased-media/comment-page-1/#comment-162912</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anything climatological happens soon, it may well be a mini-ice-age.

This looks like another dead horse (like swine flu) for the pundits to whip, while the powers-that-be get on with taking away practically every right or authority we have.

Leon Brooks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anything climatological happens soon, it may well be a mini-ice-age.</p>
<p>This looks like another dead horse (like swine flu) for the pundits to whip, while the powers-that-be get on with taking away practically every right or authority we have.</p>
<p>Leon Brooks</p>
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		<title>By: Ewan</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/11/25/rogue-science-and-biased-media/comment-page-1/#comment-162911</link>
		<dc:creator>Ewan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except to say John, that it is an indictment on how far our society has fallen that we have openly homosexual people occupying some of the highest offices in our land. Remember former High Court justice Kirby too.

Ewan McDonald.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except to say John, that it is an indictment on how far our society has fallen that we have openly homosexual people occupying some of the highest offices in our land. Remember former High Court justice Kirby too.</p>
<p>Ewan McDonald.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Twiss</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/11/25/rogue-science-and-biased-media/comment-page-1/#comment-162863</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Twiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an interesting article on one of the US MSM sites.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml
  
If you view it on Lewrockwell.com some great links show up, including one  EastAngliaEmails.com which has an exhaustive list of the emails.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/mccullagh3.1.1.html

I wonder how long the others are going to be able to keep a lid on this.  I think at some point there are going to be a lot of silly looking people.

Phil Twiss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting article on one of the US MSM sites.<br />
<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml" rel="nofollow">www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml</a></p>
<p>If you view it on <a href="http://Lewrockwell.com" class="autohyperlink" title="http://Lewrockwell.com" target="_blank">Lewrockwell.com</a> some great links show up, including one  <a href="http://EastAngliaEmails.com" class="autohyperlink" title="http://EastAngliaEmails.com" target="_blank">EastAngliaEmails.com</a> which has an exhaustive list of the emails.<br />
<a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/mccullagh3.1.1.html" rel="nofollow">www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/mccullagh3.1.1.html</a></p>
<p>I wonder how long the others are going to be able to keep a lid on this.  I think at some point there are going to be a lot of silly looking people.</p>
<p>Phil Twiss</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks John

Yes fair point.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks John</p>
<p>Yes fair point.</p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: John Angelico</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/11/25/rogue-science-and-biased-media/comment-page-1/#comment-162834</link>
		<dc:creator>John Angelico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill - just catching up after a week full of meetings.

A caution for Ian Brearley (and probably Stan Fishley too): identifying Sens Penny Wong and Bob Brown as homosexual may be the truth (and by their own admission), but is strictly speaking an ad hominem attack and not logically sustainable.

There are many who are not homosexual and yet who hold to the AGW theory, and I dare say it is possible for some homosexuals to have a blind spot on that point while seeing clearly that the AGW theory is false.

Let&#039;s stick to the real facts, and the proper logical arguments to make our case.

John Angelico</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill &#8211; just catching up after a week full of meetings.</p>
<p>A caution for Ian Brearley (and probably Stan Fishley too): identifying Sens Penny Wong and Bob Brown as homosexual may be the truth (and by their own admission), but is strictly speaking an ad hominem attack and not logically sustainable.</p>
<p>There are many who are not homosexual and yet who hold to the AGW theory, and I dare say it is possible for some homosexuals to have a blind spot on that point while seeing clearly that the AGW theory is false.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s stick to the real facts, and the proper logical arguments to make our case.</p>
<p>John Angelico</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill,

I have to agree with you in that the MSM here is Aus is just pathetic. They always appear to be in a close relationship with whoever is in power. Having to listen to Turnbull parrot on about the dire need to save the planet was just depressing... only then to realize that he is just a lawyer. Same goes for Wong, another lawyer. 

Some more data to add to the list. I now believe that there is man made warming. Man changes the numbers to show us all it is getting warmer....

http://www.climatescience.org.nz/images/PDFs/global_warming_nz2.pdf 

Ben Green</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,</p>
<p>I have to agree with you in that the MSM here is Aus is just pathetic. They always appear to be in a close relationship with whoever is in power. Having to listen to Turnbull parrot on about the dire need to save the planet was just depressing&#8230; only then to realize that he is just a lawyer. Same goes for Wong, another lawyer. </p>
<p>Some more data to add to the list. I now believe that there is man made warming. Man changes the numbers to show us all it is getting warmer&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.climatescience.org.nz/images/PDFs/global_warming_nz2.pdf" rel="nofollow">www.climatescience.org.nz/images/PDFs/global_warming_nz2.pdf</a> </p>
<p>Ben Green</p>
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