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		<title>By: Frank Bellet</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/10/15/abortion-addiction/comment-page-1/#comment-157915</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Bellet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I formed the opinion that this woman is mentally ill - very seriously ill. Also I was pleased to read where you referred to our opponents as &quot;pro death&quot;. I usually refer to them as pro abortion and never use the euphemistic description of &quot;pro choice&quot;. The abortion legislation in Victoria proved beyond any shadow of doubt that our opponents are not &quot;pro choice&quot; and never were. 
Frank Bellet, Petrie Qld</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I formed the opinion that this woman is mentally ill &#8211; very seriously ill. Also I was pleased to read where you referred to our opponents as &#8220;pro death&#8221;. I usually refer to them as pro abortion and never use the euphemistic description of &#8220;pro choice&#8221;. The abortion legislation in Victoria proved beyond any shadow of doubt that our opponents are not &#8220;pro choice&#8221; and never were.<br />
Frank Bellet, Petrie Qld</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Biermann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley Biermann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It hasn&#039;t made me less pro-choice ... it&#039;s just that I understand and feel the weight of the privilege we have in exercising our right to choose.&quot; -Irene Vilar

A comment that displays the true weight of the delegation of authority to legally kill. Humanity&#039;s constant desire to be judge and jury and executioner is displayed in all its madness. Is this really the way we want to go as a community?&quot;

Ashley Biermann</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It hasn&#8217;t made me less pro-choice &#8230; it&#8217;s just that I understand and feel the weight of the privilege we have in exercising our right to choose.&#8221; -Irene Vilar</p>
<p>A comment that displays the true weight of the delegation of authority to legally kill. Humanity&#8217;s constant desire to be judge and jury and executioner is displayed in all its madness. Is this really the way we want to go as a community?&#8221;</p>
<p>Ashley Biermann</p>
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		<title>By: wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked as a midwife I use to look after women who had a history of therapeuatic termination of pregnancy-abortion but I am just being euphemistic - and were now in hospital pregnant and were wanting a child, except that there was threat of miscarriage (spontaneous abortion), they had to rest to reduce the risk of this event occurring. I remembered what the Baptist preacher SIDLOW BAXTER said once that &quot;God will forgive you but nature will not&quot;, and although he said that in the context of smoking, it could  also applies in other cases.
Wayne Pelling</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked as a midwife I use to look after women who had a history of therapeuatic termination of pregnancy-abortion but I am just being euphemistic &#8211; and were now in hospital pregnant and were wanting a child, except that there was threat of miscarriage (spontaneous abortion), they had to rest to reduce the risk of this event occurring. I remembered what the Baptist preacher SIDLOW BAXTER said once that &#8220;God will forgive you but nature will not&#8221;, and although he said that in the context of smoking, it could  also applies in other cases.<br />
Wayne Pelling</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abortion has some very wicked roots:

Massacre of Innocence (1 of 10) Abortion: The Religion of Witchcraft and Child Sacrifice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMCk-L_V8oA 

Donna Opie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abortion has some very wicked roots:</p>
<p>Massacre of Innocence (1 of 10) Abortion: The Religion of Witchcraft and Child Sacrifice</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMCk-L_V8oA" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMCk-L_V8oA</a> </p>
<p>Donna Opie</p>
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		<title>By: david skinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>david skinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff Peet, Many thanks for this. Doug Bandow said “Laurie Carlsson defended the secretary&#039;s &quot;nuanced view&quot; on an issue that is &quot;neither simple, nor clean-cut along lines of political beliefs or moral values.&quot;

David Mixner the homosexual guru of America said, “And I think that in many ways that we are seeing that many in the heterosexual community are copying some of those alternative ways (homosexual)  that people can be together, love each other in a healthy wonderful positive sense and the same time meet the needs of a very complex society in which we live in.&quot;

Yes life in the 21st century is indeed nuanced and complex. How convenient.

So how about if homosexuality is genetic and identifiable why shouldn’t a  mother, who simply doesn’t fancy having a homosexual baby, using her absolute human rights card, abort it?

Why also should a chymera or half human half animal embryo be aborted after 14 days on humanitarian and compassionate grounds and in recognition that it is indeed part human; whereas a fully human embryo, can be aborted up to 24 weeks, simply on the grounds that it is not human but merely the products of pregnancy?

David Skinner, UK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff Peet, Many thanks for this. Doug Bandow said “Laurie Carlsson defended the secretary&#8217;s &#8220;nuanced view&#8221; on an issue that is &#8220;neither simple, nor clean-cut along lines of political beliefs or moral values.&#8221;</p>
<p>David Mixner the homosexual guru of America said, “And I think that in many ways that we are seeing that many in the heterosexual community are copying some of those alternative ways (homosexual)  that people can be together, love each other in a healthy wonderful positive sense and the same time meet the needs of a very complex society in which we live in.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes life in the 21st century is indeed nuanced and complex. How convenient.</p>
<p>So how about if homosexuality is genetic and identifiable why shouldn’t a  mother, who simply doesn’t fancy having a homosexual baby, using her absolute human rights card, abort it?</p>
<p>Why also should a chymera or half human half animal embryo be aborted after 14 days on humanitarian and compassionate grounds and in recognition that it is indeed part human; whereas a fully human embryo, can be aborted up to 24 weeks, simply on the grounds that it is not human but merely the products of pregnancy?</p>
<p>David Skinner, UK</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Peet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Peet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill

I was deeply saddened to read of this story in today&#039;s newspaper. I wonder how Irene will explain all of this to Loretta and Lolita.

Another dilemma in regards to abortion can be found in Doug Bandow&#039;s commentary here (http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10537 or http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2009/09/137_51725.html). Hilary Clinton is apparently disturbed at the disproportional rates of girls being aborted in some countries (It would be great to see her concerned about the even more disturbing number of abortions world wide rather than one small segment).

Geoff Peet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill</p>
<p>I was deeply saddened to read of this story in today&#8217;s newspaper. I wonder how Irene will explain all of this to Loretta and Lolita.</p>
<p>Another dilemma in regards to abortion can be found in Doug Bandow&#8217;s commentary here (<a href="http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10537" rel="nofollow">www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10537</a> or <a href="http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2009/09/137_51725.html" rel="nofollow">www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2009/09/137_51725.html</a>). Hilary Clinton is apparently disturbed at the disproportional rates of girls being aborted in some countries (It would be great to see her concerned about the even more disturbing number of abortions world wide rather than one small segment).</p>
<p>Geoff Peet</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Petridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane Petridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also read there were a number of suicide attempts in the years of the abortion.
She obviously wasn&#039;t comfortable with what she was doing. Actually, she was dying inside I would say.

Her true feelings will come out in the future.

Jane Petridge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also read there were a number of suicide attempts in the years of the abortion.<br />
She obviously wasn&#8217;t comfortable with what she was doing. Actually, she was dying inside I would say.</p>
<p>Her true feelings will come out in the future.</p>
<p>Jane Petridge</p>
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		<title>By: John Snowden</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Snowden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Joseph H. Berke&#039;s &quot;The Tyranny of Malice&quot; there are examples of mothers-to-be pathologically hostile to their foetuses. The author is a Freudian who spins some questionable explanations of behaviour but there is no reason to doubt the reliability of his descriptions. Psychopathology can also turn up in the behaviours of males towards pregnancy.

The truth is that children can be victims of parental personality disorder before birth as well as after. And there is the perennial problem of society institutionalising psychopathic ideas. In this case it is the obscene idea that an unborn human being is a mere object, a disposable blob whose value is to be determined by whether you subjectively want it or not. The weirdest reason I ever heard of for an abortion was the case of an American woman who aborted her child because the birth would have conflicted with a planned holiday. Unfortunately I never verified that story but it sounds about right for a culture that reduces morality to mere opinion, and for a culture whose intellectuals cook up relativist, subjectivist and emotivist reductionist accounts of moral truth.

John Snowden</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Joseph H. Berke&#8217;s &#8220;The Tyranny of Malice&#8221; there are examples of mothers-to-be pathologically hostile to their foetuses. The author is a Freudian who spins some questionable explanations of behaviour but there is no reason to doubt the reliability of his descriptions. Psychopathology can also turn up in the behaviours of males towards pregnancy.</p>
<p>The truth is that children can be victims of parental personality disorder before birth as well as after. And there is the perennial problem of society institutionalising psychopathic ideas. In this case it is the obscene idea that an unborn human being is a mere object, a disposable blob whose value is to be determined by whether you subjectively want it or not. The weirdest reason I ever heard of for an abortion was the case of an American woman who aborted her child because the birth would have conflicted with a planned holiday. Unfortunately I never verified that story but it sounds about right for a culture that reduces morality to mere opinion, and for a culture whose intellectuals cook up relativist, subjectivist and emotivist reductionist accounts of moral truth.</p>
<p>John Snowden</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mark

Well yes, it does sound incredible, but that does not tell us whether it is true or not. So until we know otherwise, perhaps we should assume it is true and go from there. 

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mark</p>
<p>Well yes, it does sound incredible, but that does not tell us whether it is true or not. So until we know otherwise, perhaps we should assume it is true and go from there. </p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Rabich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Rabich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill,

I should&#039;ve been more specific - the first post on the blog is from someone who has read the book and finds it a bit dubious:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I really doubt the story is truthful. There is not much detail in the book and I think the whole thing might be contrived for sensationalism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Mark Rabich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,</p>
<p>I should&#8217;ve been more specific &#8211; the first post on the blog is from someone who has read the book and finds it a bit dubious:</p>
<blockquote><p>I really doubt the story is truthful. There is not much detail in the book and I think the whole thing might be contrived for sensationalism.</p></blockquote>
<p>Mark Rabich</p>
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