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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/10/12/now-for-the-military-obamanation/comment-page-1/#comment-158040</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Stephen

Yes you are absolutely right. We must all pray indeed.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Stephen</p>
<p>Yes you are absolutely right. We must all pray indeed.</p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: stephen white</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen white</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I note that the Democrat controlled House has added a Hate crime legislation onto the defense apprporiation Bill due to be voted by the US Senate shortly. The Hate crime has absolutely nothing to do with defense funding - the &#039;Hate&#039; is anyone speaking out against homosexuality.  
The House has been very clever, the Senate cannot split Hate legislation from Defense spending without it going back to the House, with all the delays in providing funding for troops and veterans - many of the US public would see Senate rejection as anti-patriotic because it would hurt the troops who are out there in harm&#039;s way.

Please pray for wisdom and courage for responsible US Senators to do what is right in this circumstance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note that the Democrat controlled House has added a Hate crime legislation onto the defense apprporiation Bill due to be voted by the US Senate shortly. The Hate crime has absolutely nothing to do with defense funding &#8211; the &#8216;Hate&#8217; is anyone speaking out against homosexuality.<br />
The House has been very clever, the Senate cannot split Hate legislation from Defense spending without it going back to the House, with all the delays in providing funding for troops and veterans &#8211; many of the US public would see Senate rejection as anti-patriotic because it would hurt the troops who are out there in harm&#8217;s way.</p>
<p>Please pray for wisdom and courage for responsible US Senators to do what is right in this circumstance.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray Adamthwaite</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/10/12/now-for-the-military-obamanation/comment-page-1/#comment-157433</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray Adamthwaite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would draw readers&#039; attention to the discussion by James White, the Christian apologist, of Obama&#039;s speech, highlighting its profoundly anti-Christian tone and sentiment, in the following Dividing Line broadcast on White&#039;s website: http://www.aomin.org/podcasts/20091013.mp3

There are sound clips from Obama&#039;s speech, and hearing these I defy anyone to affirm that he is in any sense of the word a Christian. He is a post-modern secularist with the usual anti-Christian far-left agenda, who at the same time demonstrates his abject ignorance of matters Biblical (and most other things too) time and again.

Murray Adamthwaite</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would draw readers&#8217; attention to the discussion by James White, the Christian apologist, of Obama&#8217;s speech, highlighting its profoundly anti-Christian tone and sentiment, in the following Dividing Line broadcast on White&#8217;s website: <a href="http://www.aomin.org/podcasts/20091013.mp3" rel="nofollow">www.aomin.org/podcasts/20091013.mp3</a></p>
<p>There are sound clips from Obama&#8217;s speech, and hearing these I defy anyone to affirm that he is in any sense of the word a Christian. He is a post-modern secularist with the usual anti-Christian far-left agenda, who at the same time demonstrates his abject ignorance of matters Biblical (and most other things too) time and again.</p>
<p>Murray Adamthwaite</p>
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		<title>By: david skinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>david skinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to look at the various practices and pathologies of those who practice sodomy which tends to be higher in the homosexual community - things like AIDS, HIV, various STDs, pederasty, sado-masochism, bipolar disorder, drug addiction, incidence of suicide, instability, divorce, and above all the appropriation and destruction of marriage, the family our children and Truth. In these the homophile though distinctly in the minority, 1- 2% of the population, punches way above his weight.

In the UK Lord Waddington, hero man, managed to get the inclusion of a free speech amendment inserted into the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act, clause 58 that now forms section 29JA in the Public Order Act 1986 which read as follows: “In this Part, for the avoidance of doubt, the discussion or criticism of sexual conduct or practices or the urging of persons to refrain from or modify such conduct or practices shall not be taken of itself to be threatening or intended to stir up hatred.”

Sounds reasonable but Brownshirt Gordan and his homosexual chums like Peter Mandelson, Ben Bradshaw, Chris Bryant, Chris Smith, the lesbian Angela Eagle, and many others of the same camp, will have none of it - simply because it does not privilege homosexuals not to have their conduct criticised. They are a privileged breed. Because we are not allowed to even demur towards homosexual practice, we will not be allowed to object to anyone’s sexual behaviour.

If we have to except homosexuality in its entirety we have to accept everything that goes with it, especially its physical expression. As Mark Rabich seems to suggest, the word homosexual, after all, is composed of the word “sexual.”   

We all have an orientation towards sexual violence, lying, swearing, scandal, murder, adultery evil, greed, depravity, strife, deceit, malice, gossips, slander etc. These are within human nature but we have never had laws that now actively give protection to and encourage us to give expression to these vile passions. 

David Skinner, UK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to look at the various practices and pathologies of those who practice sodomy which tends to be higher in the homosexual community &#8211; things like AIDS, HIV, various STDs, pederasty, sado-masochism, bipolar disorder, drug addiction, incidence of suicide, instability, divorce, and above all the appropriation and destruction of marriage, the family our children and Truth. In these the homophile though distinctly in the minority, 1- 2% of the population, punches way above his weight.</p>
<p>In the UK Lord Waddington, hero man, managed to get the inclusion of a free speech amendment inserted into the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act, clause 58 that now forms section 29JA in the Public Order Act 1986 which read as follows: “In this Part, for the avoidance of doubt, the discussion or criticism of sexual conduct or practices or the urging of persons to refrain from or modify such conduct or practices shall not be taken of itself to be threatening or intended to stir up hatred.”</p>
<p>Sounds reasonable but Brownshirt Gordan and his homosexual chums like Peter Mandelson, Ben Bradshaw, Chris Bryant, Chris Smith, the lesbian Angela Eagle, and many others of the same camp, will have none of it &#8211; simply because it does not privilege homosexuals not to have their conduct criticised. They are a privileged breed. Because we are not allowed to even demur towards homosexual practice, we will not be allowed to object to anyone’s sexual behaviour.</p>
<p>If we have to except homosexuality in its entirety we have to accept everything that goes with it, especially its physical expression. As Mark Rabich seems to suggest, the word homosexual, after all, is composed of the word “sexual.”   </p>
<p>We all have an orientation towards sexual violence, lying, swearing, scandal, murder, adultery evil, greed, depravity, strife, deceit, malice, gossips, slander etc. These are within human nature but we have never had laws that now actively give protection to and encourage us to give expression to these vile passions. </p>
<p>David Skinner, UK</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Rabich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Rabich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess my very first sentence of my above post would be a fair question of Amanda: How about mixed-sex showers as well?

BTW, I want to correct myself for the term &#039;gays in the military&#039;; &#039;people who practice homosexual sex working in the military&#039; I would consider as being more accurate, albeit wordier. The confusion of identity with behaviour in the way we use language seems to me to contribute to giving activists assistance to overlook what homosexuality actually means.

Mark Rabich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess my very first sentence of my above post would be a fair question of Amanda: How about mixed-sex showers as well?</p>
<p>BTW, I want to correct myself for the term &#8216;gays in the military&#8217;; &#8216;people who practice homosexual sex working in the military&#8217; I would consider as being more accurate, albeit wordier. The confusion of identity with behaviour in the way we use language seems to me to contribute to giving activists assistance to overlook what homosexuality actually means.</p>
<p>Mark Rabich</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Amanda

But with all due respect in return, unfortunately you really seem to miss the point here. In the military today both men and women serve – but they live in separate quarters (at least for now). Thus the temptation to, and availability of, heterosexual activity – whether forced or not – is lessened considerably.

But when homosexuals are living in close confines with other men (or lesbians with other women) the likelihood of homosexual acts are of course greatly increased – whether forced or voluntary. So rape as such is not even the real issue here. It is about sexual temptation and activity, and how that can undermine the cohesion, discipline and morale of our fighting forces.

It is this problem of the intimacy and explosiveness of human sexuality – with all of its attendant tensions and frictions, including emotional, psychological and medical ramifications – that is the concern here. The military exists for one purpose – to defend a nation. It should not be turned into a hot house of sexual activity, or a means of promoting social engineering.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Amanda</p>
<p>But with all due respect in return, unfortunately you really seem to miss the point here. In the military today both men and women serve – but they live in separate quarters (at least for now). Thus the temptation to, and availability of, heterosexual activity – whether forced or not – is lessened considerably.</p>
<p>But when homosexuals are living in close confines with other men (or lesbians with other women) the likelihood of homosexual acts are of course greatly increased – whether forced or voluntary. So rape as such is not even the real issue here. It is about sexual temptation and activity, and how that can undermine the cohesion, discipline and morale of our fighting forces.</p>
<p>It is this problem of the intimacy and explosiveness of human sexuality – with all of its attendant tensions and frictions, including emotional, psychological and medical ramifications – that is the concern here. The military exists for one purpose – to defend a nation. It should not be turned into a hot house of sexual activity, or a means of promoting social engineering.</p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Fairweather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Fairweather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, with all due respect, I don&#039;t see how it matters if someone in the military is homosexual or not?

If one man rapes another man, obviously there should be an inquiry into it, and that person should be justly punished.

In the same way that if a man in the armed forces raped a woman, there would be an inquiry, and that person would be justly punished.

But the two issues are not synonymous.

Amanda Fairweather</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, with all due respect, I don&#8217;t see how it matters if someone in the military is homosexual or not?</p>
<p>If one man rapes another man, obviously there should be an inquiry into it, and that person should be justly punished.</p>
<p>In the same way that if a man in the armed forces raped a woman, there would be an inquiry, and that person would be justly punished.</p>
<p>But the two issues are not synonymous.</p>
<p>Amanda Fairweather</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ross

I’m not sure how qualified I am to speak about it, but in short, I am not impressed with Obama’s plan in particular, and socialised medicine in general. But it would take a bit of time to properly explain why, so I will have to write an article on the topic - hopefully some time soon. So stay tuned.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ross</p>
<p>I’m not sure how qualified I am to speak about it, but in short, I am not impressed with Obama’s plan in particular, and socialised medicine in general. But it would take a bit of time to properly explain why, so I will have to write an article on the topic &#8211; hopefully some time soon. So stay tuned.</p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jeremy

Strange, but the critics will take a quite different line when it comes to sexual abuse at the hands of the clergy. Let me paraphrase you: “As you will know, rape by the clergy is almost always about the exercise of power – it is committed more often by people who are otherwise clergy. It is nothing to do with the clergy or Christianity.”

Somehow I don’t hear that line coming from the secular left. But they want to use it when the issue is one of homosexuals doing the assaults. Sorry, but I am not buying into your argument here, nor the apparent double standards by so many on your side.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jeremy</p>
<p>Strange, but the critics will take a quite different line when it comes to sexual abuse at the hands of the clergy. Let me paraphrase you: “As you will know, rape by the clergy is almost always about the exercise of power – it is committed more often by people who are otherwise clergy. It is nothing to do with the clergy or Christianity.”</p>
<p>Somehow I don’t hear that line coming from the secular left. But they want to use it when the issue is one of homosexuals doing the assaults. Sorry, but I am not buying into your argument here, nor the apparent double standards by so many on your side.</p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: lawrie mcnamara</title>
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		<dc:creator>lawrie mcnamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the book about homosexuals in the Nazi party, &quot;The Pink Swastika&quot; is anything to go by, America may well conquer and destoy much of Europe.
Lawrie Mcnamara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the book about homosexuals in the Nazi party, &#8220;The Pink Swastika&#8221; is anything to go by, America may well conquer and destoy much of Europe.<br />
Lawrie Mcnamara</p>
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