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		<title>By: Michael Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time Magazine&#039;s Person (or Man) of the Year is also an intersting read, although it is compiled by journos.

Wikipedia at least shows that Time have attempted integrity by stating, &quot;In 1998, professional wrestler Mick Foley led the online poll to be voted Time Man of the Year; however, he was removed as a candidate after Time felt he had not done enough to deserve the accolade.&quot;

If only the Nobel Peace Prize committee had considered that truth should be promoted, instead of being the casualty in this ridiculous nomination.

By their standards, Daryl Somers deserves the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize for &#039;Hasty Apology for Upsetting Visiting Politically Correct American Entertainer Promoting His Latest Musical Release on an Australian TV Program.&quot;

It would be the equivalent of Barry Hall of the Sydney Swans winning the Brownlow Medal for being the AFL Fairest and Best Footballer for 2009. (At least he scored some goals!)

Shalom.
Mike Evans, Alice Springs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time Magazine&#8217;s Person (or Man) of the Year is also an intersting read, although it is compiled by journos.</p>
<p>Wikipedia at least shows that Time have attempted integrity by stating, &#8220;In 1998, professional wrestler Mick Foley led the online poll to be voted Time Man of the Year; however, he was removed as a candidate after Time felt he had not done enough to deserve the accolade.&#8221;</p>
<p>If only the Nobel Peace Prize committee had considered that truth should be promoted, instead of being the casualty in this ridiculous nomination.</p>
<p>By their standards, Daryl Somers deserves the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize for &#8216;Hasty Apology for Upsetting Visiting Politically Correct American Entertainer Promoting His Latest Musical Release on an Australian TV Program.&#8221;</p>
<p>It would be the equivalent of Barry Hall of the Sydney Swans winning the Brownlow Medal for being the AFL Fairest and Best Footballer for 2009. (At least he scored some goals!)</p>
<p>Shalom.<br />
Mike Evans, Alice Springs.</p>
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		<title>By: George Kokonis</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Kokonis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How disgusting is this award? What a farce! People are utterly deluded.

The man that so many worldwide appear to be toting as the Messiah, the peace maker, is actually sponsoring the destroying of the unborn.

He cares more about stray dogs at the animal refuge.

I am sure that under his &#039;leadership&#039; we are all in for a rough ride.

God help us all, especially the unborn.

George Kokonis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How disgusting is this award? What a farce! People are utterly deluded.</p>
<p>The man that so many worldwide appear to be toting as the Messiah, the peace maker, is actually sponsoring the destroying of the unborn.</p>
<p>He cares more about stray dogs at the animal refuge.</p>
<p>I am sure that under his &#8216;leadership&#8217; we are all in for a rough ride.</p>
<p>God help us all, especially the unborn.</p>
<p>George Kokonis</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Anthony

Yes, nothing new there. Indeed, at this moment I am writing up an article on Obama and his radical pro-homosexual agenda. Stay tuned.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Anthony</p>
<p>Yes, nothing new there. Indeed, at this moment I am writing up an article on Obama and his radical pro-homosexual agenda. Stay tuned.</p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony McGregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now his majesty, the Nobel Peace Prize winner stands before a mass of militant gays and lesbians giving his blessing.
Anthony McGregor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now his majesty, the Nobel Peace Prize winner stands before a mass of militant gays and lesbians giving his blessing.<br />
Anthony McGregor</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Watts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, we now have a new Prince of Peace.

Never mind that Obama&#039;s presidency was but 11 days old when nominations for the prize closed on February 1st.

Michael Watts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, we now have a new Prince of Peace.</p>
<p>Never mind that Obama&#8217;s presidency was but 11 days old when nominations for the prize closed on February 1st.</p>
<p>Michael Watts</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hutton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,
I agree with the quote attributed to Castro.  Mere months after Rudd was elected he was #10 in the Time 100 most influential people, without actually doing anything.  Back then I blogged about it here: 

http://comingdawn.blogspot.com/2008/05/froth-and-bubble.html

A big part of this &quot;popularity&quot; is backlash against Bush, Howard etc.  

I think we need to ask the question why is this backlash so strong?  I suspect part of the answer is that they did a lot of things right.  That is objectionable to the left, to the lazy, to the soft, to the selfish, etc.

But I think conservatives (politically and theologically) need to ask ourselves the question, &quot;What mistakes did they make that fed this fire?

We need to not make those same mistakes as we seek to lead our culture and our nation back to sanity.

God Bless,
Michael Hutton, Ariah Park</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
I agree with the quote attributed to Castro.  Mere months after Rudd was elected he was #10 in the Time 100 most influential people, without actually doing anything.  Back then I blogged about it here: </p>
<p><a href="http://comingdawn.blogspot.com/2008/05/froth-and-bubble.html" rel="nofollow">comingdawn.blogspot.com/2008/05/froth-and-bubble.html</a></p>
<p>A big part of this &#8220;popularity&#8221; is backlash against Bush, Howard etc.  </p>
<p>I think we need to ask the question why is this backlash so strong?  I suspect part of the answer is that they did a lot of things right.  That is objectionable to the left, to the lazy, to the soft, to the selfish, etc.</p>
<p>But I think conservatives (politically and theologically) need to ask ourselves the question, &#8220;What mistakes did they make that fed this fire?</p>
<p>We need to not make those same mistakes as we seek to lead our culture and our nation back to sanity.</p>
<p>God Bless,<br />
Michael Hutton, Ariah Park</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just reading about Irena Sendler who just died at 98 and was in line for a Nobel Peace Prize for her incredible courage to save 2500 infants from the Warsaw Ghetto. She was ultimately caught and the Nazi&#039;s broke both her legs, arms and beat her severely. Guess who won the prize instead of her?
You guessed it: Al Gore for his &quot;Inconsistent Lie&quot;
Jonathan Foster</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just reading about Irena Sendler who just died at 98 and was in line for a Nobel Peace Prize for her incredible courage to save 2500 infants from the Warsaw Ghetto. She was ultimately caught and the Nazi&#8217;s broke both her legs, arms and beat her severely. Guess who won the prize instead of her?<br />
You guessed it: Al Gore for his &#8220;Inconsistent Lie&#8221;<br />
Jonathan Foster</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Rabich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Rabich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree, Steve - awarding Obama this prize only means it will almost certainly become a term of derision in the future. That is actually a positive. As far as diminishing the credibility of the Nobel Peace Prize, that was surely done years ago - Bill mentioned Arafat, but recent winners also include Jimmy Carter &amp; Al Gore. Some might be interested to know that Adolf Hitler was nominated in 1939 by Swedish parliamentarian Erik Brandt, but retracted it days later.

(Maybe a personal lesson we can draw from this is the meaninglessness of many of these public awards. I have to remind myself that it is only one crown that really matters.)

The committee stated that there was &quot;special importance to Mr Obama&#039;s vision and work for a world without nuclear weapons&quot;. Sorry, but to me that means that the committee is capable of giving the award to someone who publicly declares he has his head in the sand about foreign policy and as a result &lt;i&gt;clearly makes the world less safe&lt;/i&gt; by emboldening any number of evil regimes and organizations.

But it is the main reason given for Obama&#039;s award that is so laughable: &quot;for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.&quot;  &lt;i&gt;extraordinary?&lt;/i&gt;  There&#039;s certainly no cooperation between him and the unborn, or even just-born, &quot;peoples&quot;. So pardon me as I cough and splutter at that masterstroke of public head-in-the-sand declaration by the committee.

Obama thinks it OK to define pregnancy as being &quot;punished with a baby&quot; and voted several times to allow babies who survived the best attempts of so-called medical professionals to murder them &lt;i&gt;to be left in utility rooms to die.&lt;/i&gt; Jill Stanek, the nurse at the centre of that controversy, has her own take on the award.
http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2009/10/obamas_nobel_pe.html

The original story of Obama and BAIPA is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo
http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/02/links_to_barack.html
another excellent video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HRFqmlZEbY

Here&#039;s a cartoon I find unnervingly poignant by Eric Allie:
http://www.voicescarryblog.com/wp-content/cartoon-8-26-hope-in-the-utility-room.jpg
I can barely look at it without getting upset.  I can&#039;t imagine what God thinks of all this.

A brilliant quote off the prolife blog, voicescarry:
&quot;How far we&#039;ve come from the days when it was thought that black people were not developed enough to be treated as human beings and therefore could be bought and sold at will. The irony is that this black man, Barry Obama, doesn&#039;t believe the unborn are developed enough (even after they are born) to be considered human beings.&quot;
ref:  http://www.voicescarryblog.com/social-justice-begins-in-the-womb/

It was ironic that this happened on Friday night/Saturday morning Melbourne time. Later that morning I went on the pro-life march that marks the first anniversary of Victoria&#039;s blackest day, where our elected representatives told us it is OK that the unborn are able to be legally killed throughout all 9 months of pregnancy. And that doctors and nurses are forced by law to at least be complicit in this planned death. But abortionists are not required to report suspected child abuse. And an amendment banning partial birth abortion was voted down. Even giving a late-term fetus an anaesthetic before it gets torn to pieces was considered somehow a threat to women&#039;s &#039;reproductive rights&#039;. And these same people think they are the &#039;compassionate ones&#039;. Spare me.

What kind of world do we live in where people have lost their humanity like this? I&#039;m not a parent, and even I can&#039;t stomach it - but I especially can&#039;t fathom what kind of mental disconnect it takes to have children and yet support these kinds of things. Blokes like Victorian Premier John Brumby and Opposition Leader Ted Baillieu are clearly unfit for office until they have learned that basic rights are meaningless &lt;i&gt;unless they apply to all equally.&lt;/i&gt; And a host of other politicians too.

(Another great quote from Mother Teresa was this:
&quot;It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish.&quot;)

And that is where we get back to Obama. Abortion is evil and has spawned an industry that runs on blood money. Obama supports it totally. It kills more every three years globally than both World Wars combined - which covered a total of 10 years. Draw your own conclusion about the Nobel &#039;Peace&#039; Prize.

Mark Rabich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree, Steve &#8211; awarding Obama this prize only means it will almost certainly become a term of derision in the future. That is actually a positive. As far as diminishing the credibility of the Nobel Peace Prize, that was surely done years ago &#8211; Bill mentioned Arafat, but recent winners also include Jimmy Carter &amp; Al Gore. Some might be interested to know that Adolf Hitler was nominated in 1939 by Swedish parliamentarian Erik Brandt, but retracted it days later.</p>
<p>(Maybe a personal lesson we can draw from this is the meaninglessness of many of these public awards. I have to remind myself that it is only one crown that really matters.)</p>
<p>The committee stated that there was &#8220;special importance to Mr Obama&#8217;s vision and work for a world without nuclear weapons&#8221;. Sorry, but to me that means that the committee is capable of giving the award to someone who publicly declares he has his head in the sand about foreign policy and as a result <i>clearly makes the world less safe</i> by emboldening any number of evil regimes and organizations.</p>
<p>But it is the main reason given for Obama&#8217;s award that is so laughable: &#8220;for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.&#8221;  <i>extraordinary?</i>  There&#8217;s certainly no cooperation between him and the unborn, or even just-born, &#8220;peoples&#8221;. So pardon me as I cough and splutter at that masterstroke of public head-in-the-sand declaration by the committee.</p>
<p>Obama thinks it OK to define pregnancy as being &#8220;punished with a baby&#8221; and voted several times to allow babies who survived the best attempts of so-called medical professionals to murder them <i>to be left in utility rooms to die.</i> Jill Stanek, the nurse at the centre of that controversy, has her own take on the award.<br />
<a href="http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2009/10/obamas_nobel_pe.html" rel="nofollow">www.jillstanek.com/archives/2009/10/obamas_nobel_pe.html</a></p>
<p>The original story of Obama and BAIPA is here:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo</a><br />
<a href="http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/02/links_to_barack.html" rel="nofollow">www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/02/links_to_barack.html</a><br />
another excellent video:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HRFqmlZEbY" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HRFqmlZEbY</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a cartoon I find unnervingly poignant by Eric Allie:<br />
<a href="http://www.voicescarryblog.com/wp-content/cartoon-8-26-hope-in-the-utility-room.jpg" rel="nofollow">www.voicescarryblog.com/wp-content/cartoon-8-26-hope-in-the-utility-room.jpg</a><br />
I can barely look at it without getting upset.  I can&#8217;t imagine what God thinks of all this.</p>
<p>A brilliant quote off the prolife blog, voicescarry:<br />
&#8220;How far we&#8217;ve come from the days when it was thought that black people were not developed enough to be treated as human beings and therefore could be bought and sold at will. The irony is that this black man, Barry Obama, doesn&#8217;t believe the unborn are developed enough (even after they are born) to be considered human beings.&#8221;<br />
ref:  <a href="http://www.voicescarryblog.com/social-justice-begins-in-the-womb/" rel="nofollow">www.voicescarryblog.com/social-justice-begins-in-the-womb/</a></p>
<p>It was ironic that this happened on Friday night/Saturday morning Melbourne time. Later that morning I went on the pro-life march that marks the first anniversary of Victoria&#8217;s blackest day, where our elected representatives told us it is OK that the unborn are able to be legally killed throughout all 9 months of pregnancy. And that doctors and nurses are forced by law to at least be complicit in this planned death. But abortionists are not required to report suspected child abuse. And an amendment banning partial birth abortion was voted down. Even giving a late-term fetus an anaesthetic before it gets torn to pieces was considered somehow a threat to women&#8217;s &#8216;reproductive rights&#8217;. And these same people think they are the &#8216;compassionate ones&#8217;. Spare me.</p>
<p>What kind of world do we live in where people have lost their humanity like this? I&#8217;m not a parent, and even I can&#8217;t stomach it &#8211; but I especially can&#8217;t fathom what kind of mental disconnect it takes to have children and yet support these kinds of things. Blokes like Victorian Premier John Brumby and Opposition Leader Ted Baillieu are clearly unfit for office until they have learned that basic rights are meaningless <i>unless they apply to all equally.</i> And a host of other politicians too.</p>
<p>(Another great quote from Mother Teresa was this:<br />
&#8220;It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish.&#8221;)</p>
<p>And that is where we get back to Obama. Abortion is evil and has spawned an industry that runs on blood money. Obama supports it totally. It kills more every three years globally than both World Wars combined &#8211; which covered a total of 10 years. Draw your own conclusion about the Nobel &#8216;Peace&#8217; Prize.</p>
<p>Mark Rabich</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Twiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Twiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has seriously diminished Obama not only as the president but as a man. By accepting an award he must surely know he does nothing to deserve shows that he is either totally delusional or utterly cynical. Either way I think the US is in for a rough ride as the cult of personality only deepens - and we know how much fun they can be from recent historical examples.
Phil Twiss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has seriously diminished Obama not only as the president but as a man. By accepting an award he must surely know he does nothing to deserve shows that he is either totally delusional or utterly cynical. Either way I think the US is in for a rough ride as the cult of personality only deepens &#8211; and we know how much fun they can be from recent historical examples.<br />
Phil Twiss</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Swartz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Swartz</dc:creator>
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		<description>Bill, I agree 100% with your sentiments and have blogged twice already on the matter.  Trying to put the best spin on this as possible, the Nobel Committee may have done the USA and the world in setting Obama up to failure.  Messiah&#039;s can go in one of two directions.  The true Prince of Peace has already come to earth and ascended into heaven where He currently reigns.  Nothing disillusions the masses more than a messiah that cannot deliver on the promised peace.  I believe, therefore, that Obama has been set up for failure in three year&#039;s time.  He will be a one-term president.  I guess though, he could become UN Secretary General if that other great solar-luminary, Al Gore, does not beat him to the position.
Steve Swartz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, I agree 100% with your sentiments and have blogged twice already on the matter.  Trying to put the best spin on this as possible, the Nobel Committee may have done the USA and the world in setting Obama up to failure.  Messiah&#8217;s can go in one of two directions.  The true Prince of Peace has already come to earth and ascended into heaven where He currently reigns.  Nothing disillusions the masses more than a messiah that cannot deliver on the promised peace.  I believe, therefore, that Obama has been set up for failure in three year&#8217;s time.  He will be a one-term president.  I guess though, he could become UN Secretary General if that other great solar-luminary, Al Gore, does not beat him to the position.<br />
Steve Swartz</p>
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