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		<title>By: Alan A. Hoysted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan A. Hoysted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This case yet again underlines the corruption, the rottenness of the Hollywood &quot;elite&quot;.

Their perverted way of thinking declares that there is no morality, and the only thing to rave and rant about is &quot;racism&quot; which they see wherever it politically suits them.
They are &quot;the pits&quot;, the dregs of the Western world.

Alan A. Hoysted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This case yet again underlines the corruption, the rottenness of the Hollywood &#8220;elite&#8221;.</p>
<p>Their perverted way of thinking declares that there is no morality, and the only thing to rave and rant about is &#8220;racism&#8221; which they see wherever it politically suits them.<br />
They are &#8220;the pits&#8221;, the dregs of the Western world.</p>
<p>Alan A. Hoysted</p>
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		<title>By: Garth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the whole Polanski-Kinski affair was pretty sordid. As a pretty typical father, I fail to see how anyone could allow their daughter to become enmeshed in such a situation in the first place, but with a man so much older than herself is, as I said, just sordid. Initially I was thinking of posting the comment &quot;everyone sees it differently when it&#039;s their daughter&quot; but I then realised that there are many warped sensibilities in the artistic circles/Hollywood and different cultures etc that would countenance it.
Garth Penglase</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the whole Polanski-Kinski affair was pretty sordid. As a pretty typical father, I fail to see how anyone could allow their daughter to become enmeshed in such a situation in the first place, but with a man so much older than herself is, as I said, just sordid. Initially I was thinking of posting the comment &#8220;everyone sees it differently when it&#8217;s their daughter&#8221; but I then realised that there are many warped sensibilities in the artistic circles/Hollywood and different cultures etc that would countenance it.<br />
Garth Penglase</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Marc

You may be right about Polanski – I would have to check. But either way, what he did was inexcusable.

As to the Jones volume, yes it is excellent. See my review of it here: http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/1996/03/15/a-review-of-degenerate-moderns-modernity-as-rationalized-sexual-misconduct/ 

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Marc</p>
<p>You may be right about Polanski – I would have to check. But either way, what he did was inexcusable.</p>
<p>As to the Jones volume, yes it is excellent. See my review of it here: <a href="http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/1996/03/15/a-review-of-degenerate-moderns-modernity-as-rationalized-sexual-misconduct/" rel="nofollow">www.billmuehlenberg.com/1996/03/15/a-review-of-degenerate-moderns-modernity-as-rationalized-sexual-misconduct/</a> </p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Polanski did a plea bargain for carnal knowledge rather than rape.

BTW, E. Michael Jones does a superb job in his book &#039;Degenerate Moderns&#039; on this extraordinary ability of people to justify their sexual sins by constructing elaborate &quot;scientific&quot; theories. I think, given that it&#039;s the Hollyweird celeb crowd who are primarily defending Polanski, Jones&#039; book gives a great insight into this phenomenon.

Marc Kay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Polanski did a plea bargain for carnal knowledge rather than rape.</p>
<p>BTW, E. Michael Jones does a superb job in his book &#8216;Degenerate Moderns&#8217; on this extraordinary ability of people to justify their sexual sins by constructing elaborate &#8220;scientific&#8221; theories. I think, given that it&#8217;s the Hollyweird celeb crowd who are primarily defending Polanski, Jones&#8217; book gives a great insight into this phenomenon.</p>
<p>Marc Kay</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Eldridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Eldridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you Bill, I&#039;m in disbelief that anybody can support this criminal. Before his arrest, I was not really aware of what he had done. Now I think I must be missing something or is it just more proof of the moral decline of our society?
Steven Eldridge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you Bill, I&#8217;m in disbelief that anybody can support this criminal. Before his arrest, I was not really aware of what he had done. Now I think I must be missing something or is it just more proof of the moral decline of our society?<br />
Steven Eldridge</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Bellet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Bellet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 07:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say I was gobsmacked to see Whoopi Goldberg and her boofhead associates discussing the Polanski scandal on US television. The tape was run on the Bill O&#039;Reilly show, When Whoopi&#039;s silly silly &quot;rape rape&quot; comments were made, two female attorneys commented to Bill O&#039;Reilly what sentence Polanski should receive. Apparently I expected too much. I think Liz Wiehl said he should be given a year, the other woman Margaret Hoover must have said something similar. The reason I am in doubt, is that these two women speak so hysterically quickly and often both at the same time, I often can&#039;t follow what they say. However they must have quoted minimum jail terms, because Bill O&#039;Reilly threw his head back, gave his usual dismissive sniffle and said, to my amazement, &quot;I&#039;d give him 5 years&quot;. O&#039;Reilly usually does a good job on targetting soft judges, but 5 years for this crime? I&#039;d put the Polanski creep in jail and forget he was there, until burial time. As for the Hollywood mob, they are so dumb that their usual caper after snorting cocaine all night, is to wake up at the crack of noon and start wondering whether they are supposed to be Queen Victoria or Wyatt Earp for the day.
Frank Bellet, Petrie Qld</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say I was gobsmacked to see Whoopi Goldberg and her boofhead associates discussing the Polanski scandal on US television. The tape was run on the Bill O&#8217;Reilly show, When Whoopi&#8217;s silly silly &#8220;rape rape&#8221; comments were made, two female attorneys commented to Bill O&#8217;Reilly what sentence Polanski should receive. Apparently I expected too much. I think Liz Wiehl said he should be given a year, the other woman Margaret Hoover must have said something similar. The reason I am in doubt, is that these two women speak so hysterically quickly and often both at the same time, I often can&#8217;t follow what they say. However they must have quoted minimum jail terms, because Bill O&#8217;Reilly threw his head back, gave his usual dismissive sniffle and said, to my amazement, &#8220;I&#8217;d give him 5 years&#8221;. O&#8217;Reilly usually does a good job on targetting soft judges, but 5 years for this crime? I&#8217;d put the Polanski creep in jail and forget he was there, until burial time. As for the Hollywood mob, they are so dumb that their usual caper after snorting cocaine all night, is to wake up at the crack of noon and start wondering whether they are supposed to be Queen Victoria or Wyatt Earp for the day.<br />
Frank Bellet, Petrie Qld</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 07:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kendra

Yes you are quite right. And thanks for the link - that is another good commentary on this sad story.
	
Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kendra</p>
<p>Yes you are quite right. And thanks for the link &#8211; that is another good commentary on this sad story.</p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: kendra adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>kendra adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 07:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great commentary, BIll. Thank you. Yes, I also find it repugnant that these people can defend this rapist/child molester. Polanski also had an affair with Nastassja Kinski when she was 15. His refusal to curb his desire for underage girls was not isolated to the one incident. 

I watched Whoopi say that this wasn&#039;t rape-rape on youtube and watched her condemn the girl&#039;s mother for permitting her daughter to be alone with Polanski. I don&#039;t have enough information regarding the mother, but it&#039;s clear to me that rape is rape-- whether their was parental involvement or not.  

The entire culture has lost its moral compass and it&#039;s more disturbing with each day. 30 years ago we would have called these people insane. Seriously-- how else could we describe a people who cannot process facts,  believe there are no absolutes, believe that truth is subjective. A few months ago, one of these multiculturalists said, &quot;Kendra, you may have the facts, but that doesn&#039;t mean you have the truth&quot;. Um, hello? Yes, if I have the facts then i have the truth. To her, truth was her opinion on the matter.

This person is also a voice of reason: http://writ.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/printer_friendly.pl?page=/hamilton/20091001.html

Kendra Adams, USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great commentary, BIll. Thank you. Yes, I also find it repugnant that these people can defend this rapist/child molester. Polanski also had an affair with Nastassja Kinski when she was 15. His refusal to curb his desire for underage girls was not isolated to the one incident. </p>
<p>I watched Whoopi say that this wasn&#8217;t rape-rape on youtube and watched her condemn the girl&#8217;s mother for permitting her daughter to be alone with Polanski. I don&#8217;t have enough information regarding the mother, but it&#8217;s clear to me that rape is rape&#8211; whether their was parental involvement or not.  </p>
<p>The entire culture has lost its moral compass and it&#8217;s more disturbing with each day. 30 years ago we would have called these people insane. Seriously&#8211; how else could we describe a people who cannot process facts,  believe there are no absolutes, believe that truth is subjective. A few months ago, one of these multiculturalists said, &#8220;Kendra, you may have the facts, but that doesn&#8217;t mean you have the truth&#8221;. Um, hello? Yes, if I have the facts then i have the truth. To her, truth was her opinion on the matter.</p>
<p>This person is also a voice of reason: <a href="http://writ.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/printer_friendly.pl?page=/hamilton/20091001.html" rel="nofollow">writ.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/printer_friendly.pl?page=/hamilton/20091001.html</a></p>
<p>Kendra Adams, USA</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Rabich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Rabich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 03:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Boswell&#039;s post is unfortunately typical of an ever-increasing acceptance that there is something unsophisticated (and therefore, wrong) in a simple proclamation - ie. he is guilty of child rape and should face justice.  The reality is that all other issues are secondary - especially since Polanski has already admitted to the crime.

Another frightening example of this kind of obfuscation is this article published in The Age today.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2009/10/02/1254418712657.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

The only purpose of this overlong article is to cloud the issue; it certainly doesn&#039;t enlighten.  It boggles the mind that something as heinous as taking advantage of a child sexually can ever be countenanced on the basis that the issue is somehow &quot;riddled with complexities.&quot;  And no-one who has read the relevant parts of the Grand Jury testimony can conclude that sex was &quot;consensual&quot; - which would not matter anyway - Samantha Gailey was 13!  Never mind the alcohol and drugs...  What darkness have people embraced to have this kind of attitude that allows predators to take advantage of children?  People obviously don&#039;t consider legal precedents seriously enough either.

And, yes, Phil - I have thought about going through that list of artists I linked to earlier and mining through IMDB and other sources to make up a matched list of movies for a similar purpose.  Bit busy for that at the moment, it could take several hours.  People certainly need to consider what they watch.

Mark Rabich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Boswell&#8217;s post is unfortunately typical of an ever-increasing acceptance that there is something unsophisticated (and therefore, wrong) in a simple proclamation &#8211; ie. he is guilty of child rape and should face justice.  The reality is that all other issues are secondary &#8211; especially since Polanski has already admitted to the crime.</p>
<p>Another frightening example of this kind of obfuscation is this article published in The Age today.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2009/10/02/1254418712657.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1" rel="nofollow">www.theage.com.au/articles/2009/10/02/1254418712657.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1</a></p>
<p>The only purpose of this overlong article is to cloud the issue; it certainly doesn&#8217;t enlighten.  It boggles the mind that something as heinous as taking advantage of a child sexually can ever be countenanced on the basis that the issue is somehow &#8220;riddled with complexities.&#8221;  And no-one who has read the relevant parts of the Grand Jury testimony can conclude that sex was &#8220;consensual&#8221; &#8211; which would not matter anyway &#8211; Samantha Gailey was 13!  Never mind the alcohol and drugs&#8230;  What darkness have people embraced to have this kind of attitude that allows predators to take advantage of children?  People obviously don&#8217;t consider legal precedents seriously enough either.</p>
<p>And, yes, Phil &#8211; I have thought about going through that list of artists I linked to earlier and mining through IMDB and other sources to make up a matched list of movies for a similar purpose.  Bit busy for that at the moment, it could take several hours.  People certainly need to consider what they watch.</p>
<p>Mark Rabich</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Webb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Michael

I think that Polanski will get justice in the USA.  No matter how many years pass away, all people who have a case to answer for should be brought before the courts.  Justice must be served for everyone.

Michael Webb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Michael</p>
<p>I think that Polanski will get justice in the USA.  No matter how many years pass away, all people who have a case to answer for should be brought before the courts.  Justice must be served for everyone.</p>
<p>Michael Webb</p>
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