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	<title>Comments on: A review of Reflections on the Revolution in Europe. By Christopher Caldwell.</title>
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		<title>By: michelle shave</title>
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		<dc:creator>michelle shave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments Tasman (25/9/09) concerning the challenge of Creationist to Darwinism. I couldn&#039;t agree more.  

For those who may not have heard/seen it, Creation Ministires has put out a brilliant documentary film called The Voyage That Shook the World.  It was timed to counter the lefts lauding of Darwin and to deconstruct Darwinism in this his 200th anniversary year, despite the Darwinists predictable scramble to reconstruct the edifice. Sadly it seems most Darwinist prefer ridicule to rigorous review of Creationist claims and in so doing disqualify themselves as genuine scientists and prove themselves to be but &#039;true believers&#039; of a crumbling theory. Years of effort, ingenuity and I dare say ingeniousness have gone into honing the theory of evolution and attempting to discredit the Bible, but like a beach ball held underwater, such efforts will eventually fail as have others before them and &#039;the truth will out&#039;. God always has the last word - He is the Alpha and the Omega.

Excellent material is available for churches/individuals who are seeking to reach out to those who have been ensnared by the theories of the man who I&#039;ve since seeing the film found out, was an amateur naturalist/scientist! 
See CREATION.com and read the latest updates of some of the best highly trained scientific minds of our day, who also happen to have &#039;the mind of Christ&#039;.

Michelle Shave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments Tasman (25/9/09) concerning the challenge of Creationist to Darwinism. I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  </p>
<p>For those who may not have heard/seen it, Creation Ministires has put out a brilliant documentary film called The Voyage That Shook the World.  It was timed to counter the lefts lauding of Darwin and to deconstruct Darwinism in this his 200th anniversary year, despite the Darwinists predictable scramble to reconstruct the edifice. Sadly it seems most Darwinist prefer ridicule to rigorous review of Creationist claims and in so doing disqualify themselves as genuine scientists and prove themselves to be but &#8216;true believers&#8217; of a crumbling theory. Years of effort, ingenuity and I dare say ingeniousness have gone into honing the theory of evolution and attempting to discredit the Bible, but like a beach ball held underwater, such efforts will eventually fail as have others before them and &#8216;the truth will out&#8217;. God always has the last word &#8211; He is the Alpha and the Omega.</p>
<p>Excellent material is available for churches/individuals who are seeking to reach out to those who have been ensnared by the theories of the man who I&#8217;ve since seeing the film found out, was an amateur naturalist/scientist!<br />
See <a href="http://CREATION.com" class="autohyperlink" title="http://CREATION.com" target="_blank">CREATION.com</a> and read the latest updates of some of the best highly trained scientific minds of our day, who also happen to have &#8216;the mind of Christ&#8217;.</p>
<p>Michelle Shave</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Heather

But in broken-record fashion, you keep returning with the same tired complaints. We all know by now that you are a Darwinian true believer, but you offer nothing new, so it is not worth our time here rehashing the same old arguments.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Heather</p>
<p>But in broken-record fashion, you keep returning with the same tired complaints. We all know by now that you are a Darwinian true believer, but you offer nothing new, so it is not worth our time here rehashing the same old arguments.</p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: Des Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill I am always challenged by your articles. You may feel like a voice crying out in the wilderness but you speak on behalf of many of us. Keep up the good work. 
The core of the problem is the decline of Christian values and beliefs brought about by theological liberalism; the Bible lost its authority and truth became relative. The church in Europe has lost its saltines and the culture lays bare unclothed of the full armor of God. As you rightly say when faced with “a worldview full of confidence, contempt for the infidel, sure of itself, and with an evangelistic and millennialist faith” European culture cowards in submission. Thankfully there is a force far greater than Islam. The Church armed with the infallible Word of God, proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ and filled with the Holy Spirit is unstoppable; the gates of hell will never prevail against her. The problem started in the Church and the solution will have to come from the Church.
Des Morris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill I am always challenged by your articles. You may feel like a voice crying out in the wilderness but you speak on behalf of many of us. Keep up the good work.<br />
The core of the problem is the decline of Christian values and beliefs brought about by theological liberalism; the Bible lost its authority and truth became relative. The church in Europe has lost its saltines and the culture lays bare unclothed of the full armor of God. As you rightly say when faced with “a worldview full of confidence, contempt for the infidel, sure of itself, and with an evangelistic and millennialist faith” European culture cowards in submission. Thankfully there is a force far greater than Islam. The Church armed with the infallible Word of God, proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ and filled with the Holy Spirit is unstoppable; the gates of hell will never prevail against her. The problem started in the Church and the solution will have to come from the Church.<br />
Des Morris</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Twiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Twiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mainstream Anglican Church in Perth just brought out some guy to speak as an apologist against the damage that was being done by all of us loony creationists. This is the same Church that has had Buddhists speak during Christmas services and has actively engaged itself in inter-faith dialogue with muslims and others silly enough to talk to them: go figure.  If a very public face of the church (albeit an apostate one) won&#039;t stand up for biblical truth then I guess its up to us loonies who believe the bible to do so. Its just a shame that over that last few centuries those who believe the bible as God&#039;s truth have had to contend with a main branch of the Church as well as those who self consciously hate the gospel.

I might add that I don&#039;t include the evangelical branch of the Anglican Church in the above which has been contending for biblical truth and orthodoxy. Although to be honest in our experience we have come a cross quite a few evangelicals that do not hold to a particularly biblical account of creation and tend to write off creationist thinking as naive. A point I would argue is one of the initial cracks in the earlier Anglican Church&#039;s armour that has done so much damage to Christian credibility in the eyes of the world.

Phil Twiss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mainstream Anglican Church in Perth just brought out some guy to speak as an apologist against the damage that was being done by all of us loony creationists. This is the same Church that has had Buddhists speak during Christmas services and has actively engaged itself in inter-faith dialogue with muslims and others silly enough to talk to them: go figure.  If a very public face of the church (albeit an apostate one) won&#8217;t stand up for biblical truth then I guess its up to us loonies who believe the bible to do so. Its just a shame that over that last few centuries those who believe the bible as God&#8217;s truth have had to contend with a main branch of the Church as well as those who self consciously hate the gospel.</p>
<p>I might add that I don&#8217;t include the evangelical branch of the Anglican Church in the above which has been contending for biblical truth and orthodoxy. Although to be honest in our experience we have come a cross quite a few evangelicals that do not hold to a particularly biblical account of creation and tend to write off creationist thinking as naive. A point I would argue is one of the initial cracks in the earlier Anglican Church&#8217;s armour that has done so much damage to Christian credibility in the eyes of the world.</p>
<p>Phil Twiss</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Bates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather Bates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But things can change and I’m encouraged by the pandemonium that creationists are causing in the secular strongholds as they challenge the secular creation myth–Darwinian evolution over millions of years.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;Pandemonium&quot;?  LOL!  Tasman, the vast majority of &lt;i&gt;Christians&lt;/i&gt; aren&#039;t fooled by creation &quot;science&quot;.  What could possibly make you believe that &quot;secular strongholds&quot;, which I assume means universities and the media, are at all threatened by it?  Christianity will never gain ground in Europe if Christians start denying obvious facts about geology and biology.  Indeed, I think it&#039;s the stubborn adherence to young-earth creationism by a small (yet vocal) clique of Christians which repels many Europeans from engaging with Christianity.

Heather Bates</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But things can change and I’m encouraged by the pandemonium that creationists are causing in the secular strongholds as they challenge the secular creation myth–Darwinian evolution over millions of years.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Pandemonium&#8221;?  LOL!  Tasman, the vast majority of <i>Christians</i> aren&#8217;t fooled by creation &#8220;science&#8221;.  What could possibly make you believe that &#8220;secular strongholds&#8221;, which I assume means universities and the media, are at all threatened by it?  Christianity will never gain ground in Europe if Christians start denying obvious facts about geology and biology.  Indeed, I think it&#8217;s the stubborn adherence to young-earth creationism by a small (yet vocal) clique of Christians which repels many Europeans from engaging with Christianity.</p>
<p>Heather Bates</p>
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		<title>By: David Skinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Skinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 08:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently on bill boards across the UK large posters have appeared that say “SOME PEOPLE ARE GAY GET OVER IT.”: http://www.stonewall.org.uk/media/current_releases/3512.asp

Understandably some people, according to the government who  WILL NOT GET OVER IT  are in for a kicking, or at the very least enforced diversity classes.
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/2059803.vandals_attack_gay_equality_poster/

And yet it was reported, concerning Muslim attitudes to homosexuals, that the black Leninist, Sir Trevor Phillips, who heads up the Commission for Equality and Human rights said (and I quote the Times, February 26th 2006) that:

“non-Muslims must also accept the right of imams to denounce homosexuality in a way that many would find offensive.
“One point of Britishness is that people can say what they like about the way we should live, however absurd, however unpopular it is…………”
“That’s why freedom of expression — including Muslim leaders’ right to say they think homosexuality is harmful — is absolutely precious.” ‘

What if it is found that the perpetrators of the above mentioned hate crime, in Blackburn, are found to have been Muslims? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEAdxqq3ITU

Why then can we not push the tolerance envelope by having posters saying “SOME OF US ARE MUSLIMS GET OVER  IT”?

David Skinner, UK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently on bill boards across the UK large posters have appeared that say “SOME PEOPLE ARE GAY GET OVER IT.”: <a href="http://www.stonewall.org.uk/media/current_releases/3512.asp" rel="nofollow">www.stonewall.org.uk/media/current_releases/3512.asp</a></p>
<p>Understandably some people, according to the government who  WILL NOT GET OVER IT  are in for a kicking, or at the very least enforced diversity classes.<br />
<a href="http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/2059803.vandals_attack_gay_equality_poster/" rel="nofollow">www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/2059803.vandals_attack_gay_equality_poster/</a></p>
<p>And yet it was reported, concerning Muslim attitudes to homosexuals, that the black Leninist, Sir Trevor Phillips, who heads up the Commission for Equality and Human rights said (and I quote the Times, February 26th 2006) that:</p>
<p>“non-Muslims must also accept the right of imams to denounce homosexuality in a way that many would find offensive.<br />
“One point of Britishness is that people can say what they like about the way we should live, however absurd, however unpopular it is…………”<br />
“That’s why freedom of expression — including Muslim leaders’ right to say they think homosexuality is harmful — is absolutely precious.” ‘</p>
<p>What if it is found that the perpetrators of the above mentioned hate crime, in Blackburn, are found to have been Muslims? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEAdxqq3ITU" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEAdxqq3ITU</a></p>
<p>Why then can we not push the tolerance envelope by having posters saying “SOME OF US ARE MUSLIMS GET OVER  IT”?</p>
<p>David Skinner, UK</p>
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		<title>By: Tasman Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tasman Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a tragic situation. Basically Europe has abandoned its belief in the Christian worldview. Even the Archbishop of Canterbury would not defend the opening chapters of the Bible and argue that the world was indeed created in 6 days, that there was no death before Adam sinned, that there was a global Flood, and that all people have migrated recently from Babel. Neither would the Pope, I suspect.  So if the Christian leaders do not believe their own book is it any wonder that no-one else in Europe feels inclined to stand up for old fashioned, pre-scientific Christian fairy tales.

But things can change and I&#039;m encouraged by the pandemonium that creationists are causing in the secular strongholds as they challenge the secular creation myth--Darwinian evolution over millions of years.

Tasman Walker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a tragic situation. Basically Europe has abandoned its belief in the Christian worldview. Even the Archbishop of Canterbury would not defend the opening chapters of the Bible and argue that the world was indeed created in 6 days, that there was no death before Adam sinned, that there was a global Flood, and that all people have migrated recently from Babel. Neither would the Pope, I suspect.  So if the Christian leaders do not believe their own book is it any wonder that no-one else in Europe feels inclined to stand up for old fashioned, pre-scientific Christian fairy tales.</p>
<p>But things can change and I&#8217;m encouraged by the pandemonium that creationists are causing in the secular strongholds as they challenge the secular creation myth&#8211;Darwinian evolution over millions of years.</p>
<p>Tasman Walker</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill, thanks for the review. I recently heard an interview that Dennis Prager did with Christopher Caldwell and it was an eye opener - particularly their discussion about why Europe is failing to assimilate Muslim immigrants. This has resulted in the second generation being more likely to be radicalised than their immigrant parents. 
Regards,
Steve Walker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill, thanks for the review. I recently heard an interview that Dennis Prager did with Christopher Caldwell and it was an eye opener &#8211; particularly their discussion about why Europe is failing to assimilate Muslim immigrants. This has resulted in the second generation being more likely to be radicalised than their immigrant parents.<br />
Regards,<br />
Steve Walker</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks Phil.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks Phil.</p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Twiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Twiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting how Europe parallels the rest of the West in that a rejection of values held by the forefathers of Christendom has allowed the Trojan horses of a number of counter-Christian cultures to enter the gates of the nations.  For Europe it has let in the parallel evils of secularism and Islam, for the US it seems secular socialism has taken the floor, while Australia is heading down some really weird direction that nobody knows - not even the noddies currently running the country.  
For the sake of their own hubris and self righteous so-called tolerance those in the ivory towers are opening all sorts of doors that they do not understand.  Perhaps we, like the US at the moment, will one day wake up and say enough is enough.  I doubt we will learn quickly but at some point we will learn.  I guess all we can do is boldly speak the truth even when most men are talking nonsense.  
Thanks for keeping on with this blog Bill, it is an inspiration to read more widely and understand things that the MSM does not like to talk about.
Phil Twiss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting how Europe parallels the rest of the West in that a rejection of values held by the forefathers of Christendom has allowed the Trojan horses of a number of counter-Christian cultures to enter the gates of the nations.  For Europe it has let in the parallel evils of secularism and Islam, for the US it seems secular socialism has taken the floor, while Australia is heading down some really weird direction that nobody knows &#8211; not even the noddies currently running the country.<br />
For the sake of their own hubris and self righteous so-called tolerance those in the ivory towers are opening all sorts of doors that they do not understand.  Perhaps we, like the US at the moment, will one day wake up and say enough is enough.  I doubt we will learn quickly but at some point we will learn.  I guess all we can do is boldly speak the truth even when most men are talking nonsense.<br />
Thanks for keeping on with this blog Bill, it is an inspiration to read more widely and understand things that the MSM does not like to talk about.<br />
Phil Twiss</p>
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