Comments on: The Poison of Religious Vilification Laws http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/09/20/the-poison-of-religious-vilification-laws/ Bill Muehlenberg's commentary on issues of the day... Sat, 11 Feb 2012 04:37:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: David Cohan http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/09/20/the-poison-of-religious-vilification-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-155316 David Cohan Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:30:04 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1891#comment-155316 Mind you, regarding John Spong, as many would know, he is very critical of certain parts of the Bible and Biblical literalism. As far as I know, he has never said anything against Islam, even if such criticism is really needed. David Cohan Mind you, regarding John Spong, as many would know, he is very critical of certain parts of the Bible and Biblical literalism. As far as I know, he has never said anything against Islam, even if such criticism is really needed.

David Cohan

]]> By: David Cohan http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/09/20/the-poison-of-religious-vilification-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-155313 David Cohan Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:38:38 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1891#comment-155313 Re Rowan Williams, and him being weak: For what it is worth, John Spong (I know he often has views very different to CultureWatch, but on this I think he is on the money) has been deriding Rowan Williams for years for being weak and failing to give leadership when it is needed. Hope that snippet helps. David Cohan Re Rowan Williams, and him being weak: For what it is worth, John Spong (I know he often has views very different to CultureWatch, but on this I think he is on the money) has been deriding Rowan Williams for years for being weak and failing to give leadership when it is needed.

Hope that snippet helps.

David Cohan

]]> By: Stan Fishley http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/09/20/the-poison-of-religious-vilification-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-155308 Stan Fishley Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:21:32 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1891#comment-155308 The drovers dog (his name must be withheld for obvious reasons), blames the Church for setting the stage for this debate by installing Rowan Williams as Arch. B. of Canterbury. Could some of the Brits that frequent this sight comment? Stan Fishley The drovers dog (his name must be withheld for obvious reasons), blames the Church for setting the stage for this debate by installing Rowan Williams as Arch. B. of Canterbury. Could some of the Brits that frequent this sight comment?
Stan Fishley

]]> By: John Snowden http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/09/20/the-poison-of-religious-vilification-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-155189 John Snowden Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:53:32 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1891#comment-155189 The reason the West passes laws to protect Moslems from criticism and derision is that the West is afraid of them. Better not provoke them! Christianity on the other hand is fair game because it is a toothless puppy. I saw that in Amsterdam in 1982 with all those prostitutes in shop windows, almost in the centre of the city. There was a time when the Christian majority would not have put up with that bizarre spectacle. Christianity is now mere private opinion. Even a pope can be marginalised by secularised Catholics. The secular West has not had time to reduce Islam to mere opinion. John Snowden The reason the West passes laws to protect Moslems from criticism and derision is that the West is afraid of them. Better not provoke them! Christianity on the other hand is fair game because it is a toothless puppy. I saw that in Amsterdam in 1982 with all those prostitutes in shop windows, almost in the centre of the city. There was a time when the Christian majority would not have put up with that bizarre spectacle. Christianity is now mere private opinion. Even a pope can be marginalised by secularised Catholics. The secular West has not had time to reduce Islam to mere opinion.
John Snowden

]]> By: Frank Bellet http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/09/20/the-poison-of-religious-vilification-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-155173 Frank Bellet Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:54:02 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1891#comment-155173 I find it ironic that those in politics who are out front on the subject of religion are usually those who have no religion themselves and if they do, they never darken the doors of any church. The other thing than angers me personally is that these agents of Satan, always try to dress up their gross display of bigotry, by a veneer of pretence that they are championing the defence of religion from vilification. They play on the fact that there is a sufficient number of complete dills in our community, who allow them to get away with it. On the other hand, these politicians and their cohorts with their defence of Muslims, prove something else about themselves. They are all cowards, miserable ones at that. Frank Bellet, Petrie Qld I find it ironic that those in politics who are out front on the subject of religion are usually those who have no religion themselves and if they do, they never darken the doors of any church. The other thing than angers me personally is that these agents of Satan, always try to dress up their gross display of bigotry, by a veneer of pretence that they are championing the defence of religion from vilification. They play on the fact that there is a sufficient number of complete dills in our community, who allow them to get away with it. On the other hand, these politicians and their cohorts with their defence of Muslims, prove something else about themselves. They are all cowards, miserable ones at that.
Frank Bellet, Petrie Qld

]]> By: Bill Muehlenberg http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/09/20/the-poison-of-religious-vilification-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-155170 Bill Muehlenberg Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:28:08 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1891#comment-155170 Thanks guys David Pryce-Jones also discusses the hotel incident, along with the slow but steady Islamic takeover of Britain: http://pryce-jones.nationalreview.com/ Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch Thanks guys

David Pryce-Jones also discusses the hotel incident, along with the slow but steady Islamic takeover of Britain: pryce-jones.nationalreview.com/

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch

]]> By: David Cohan http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/09/20/the-poison-of-religious-vilification-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-155030 David Cohan Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:21:05 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1891#comment-155030 Have I mentioned before that, in 2006, I was locked in a Victorian Psychiatric Ward in part because he "Reads quotes from the Bible & discusses it in Mosque ?" (There were no complaints from the Muslims. Just my own statement was enough) David Cohan Have I mentioned before that, in 2006, I was locked in a Victorian Psychiatric Ward in part because he “Reads quotes from the Bible & discusses it in Mosque ?” (There were no complaints from the Muslims. Just my own statement was enough)
David Cohan

]]> By: Damien S http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/09/20/the-poison-of-religious-vilification-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-154915 Damien S Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:56:35 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1891#comment-154915 Cute, coming from the UK. Keep in mind this is the same country that lets home burglaries, car thefts and street violence proliferate. The law over there is becoming oppressive to the people. Real crime is left untouched whilst acts of free speech are dragged before the courts. Damien Spillane Cute, coming from the UK. Keep in mind this is the same country that lets home burglaries, car thefts and street violence proliferate.

The law over there is becoming oppressive to the people. Real crime is left untouched whilst acts of free speech are dragged before the courts.

Damien Spillane

]]> By: david skinner http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/09/20/the-poison-of-religious-vilification-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-154902 david skinner Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:47:37 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1891#comment-154902 More http://www.anglican-mainstream.net/ David Skinner, UK More

www.anglican-mainstream.net/

David Skinner, UK

]]> By: david skinner http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/09/20/the-poison-of-religious-vilification-laws/comment-page-1/#comment-154882 david skinner Mon, 21 Sep 2009 06:27:43 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1891#comment-154882 Bill you say “But as this website often declares, there are nonetheless some things worth fighting for, and we should never become fatalistic here, or resign ourselves to defeat.” May I add that we should not forget that the Islamicist and evolutionary secularist, though both fanatical and militant, are indeed driven by the same closed and deterministic belief in fate and chance. These are in no way the same as the Christian living faith in God’s open system of predestination, in which the Christian, through prayer is able to alter events. This is a mystery, a paradox, but prayer is the only weapon for releasing God’s power in our world and we are obviously not using it. David Skinner, UK Bill you say “But as this website often declares, there are nonetheless some things worth fighting for, and we should never become fatalistic here, or resign ourselves to defeat.”
May I add that we should not forget that the Islamicist and evolutionary secularist, though both fanatical and militant, are indeed driven by the same closed and deterministic belief in fate and chance. These are in no way the same as the Christian living faith in God’s open system of predestination, in which the Christian, through prayer is able to alter events. This is a mystery, a paradox, but prayer is the only weapon for releasing God’s power in our world and we are obviously not using it.

David Skinner, UK

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