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	<title>Comments on: Forget the Kids, We’re Gonna Save the Planet</title>
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		<title>By: laura mcdonough</title>
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		<dc:creator>laura mcdonough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 14:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some women want to or have to stay in the work force, as the husband may not make a lot of money, yet a steady job with good benefits. Parenting is a calling, and not all are called. Some people shunning parenthood may have come from a broken home or other bad things in their past. Cynicism on marriage with high divorce rates is one reason people stay single, more so today, and if married don&#039;t raise kids. As a retiree, I always worked and now see the failures of my generation in parenting...few measure up, as homes are dysfunctional even among Christians, to include divorce and unruly kids.
Laura Mcdonough</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some women want to or have to stay in the work force, as the husband may not make a lot of money, yet a steady job with good benefits. Parenting is a calling, and not all are called. Some people shunning parenthood may have come from a broken home or other bad things in their past. Cynicism on marriage with high divorce rates is one reason people stay single, more so today, and if married don&#8217;t raise kids. As a retiree, I always worked and now see the failures of my generation in parenting&#8230;few measure up, as homes are dysfunctional even among Christians, to include divorce and unruly kids.<br />
Laura Mcdonough</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have I read somewhere that scientists have researched that when the ultimate population of animals in a particular environment is reached the fertility rate becomes zero? And is this a possibility for humans? 

I have read somewhere else that we are devolving and the human genome loses genetic information every generation and eventually will be unable to reproduce.

Both these views while encouraging on themselves do  not take into account that our Creator God will send his Son back to earth to wind things up.

Greg Brien</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have I read somewhere that scientists have researched that when the ultimate population of animals in a particular environment is reached the fertility rate becomes zero? And is this a possibility for humans? </p>
<p>I have read somewhere else that we are devolving and the human genome loses genetic information every generation and eventually will be unable to reproduce.</p>
<p>Both these views while encouraging on themselves do  not take into account that our Creator God will send his Son back to earth to wind things up.</p>
<p>Greg Brien</p>
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		<title>By: wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And who will save Cameron Diaz when she is old and in need of care? I bet she will elect to be euthanased. Both zero  population growth and the push for euthanasia show the outcome of Green antihuman policies.
Wayne Pelling</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And who will save Cameron Diaz when she is old and in need of care? I bet she will elect to be euthanased. Both zero  population growth and the push for euthanasia show the outcome of Green antihuman policies.<br />
Wayne Pelling</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Rice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Children are the future for humanity and any other way of ensuring this has no future. Without any council from those who oppose this, some countries have populations in drcline. And are obliged to import people to maintain their numbers. Australia is technically a developing country and we too need to have a migrant intake of about 150,000 new citizens each year. Our economy is based on consumers and workers. The reality is that this has been the situation for ever - and it works. Only social destruction would happen should we have no children and no mmigration? . And  second, our society rests on families and their social product; nurtered in love, security and unity. Our continuing responsibility is to protect the family not destroy it!
Peter Rice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Children are the future for humanity and any other way of ensuring this has no future. Without any council from those who oppose this, some countries have populations in drcline. And are obliged to import people to maintain their numbers. Australia is technically a developing country and we too need to have a migrant intake of about 150,000 new citizens each year. Our economy is based on consumers and workers. The reality is that this has been the situation for ever &#8211; and it works. Only social destruction would happen should we have no children and no mmigration? . And  second, our society rests on families and their social product; nurtered in love, security and unity. Our continuing responsibility is to protect the family not destroy it!<br />
Peter Rice</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Peet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Peet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bill,

The practical outcome of this is being anti-life, which is a rejection of the Author of Life. We could say &quot;God Haters&quot;.

One inconsistency I would like to point out is the green push for bio-fuels only worsening any food shortage. The greenies would rather we use corn to fuel their cars than feed our kids.

Jeremy Peet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bill,</p>
<p>The practical outcome of this is being anti-life, which is a rejection of the Author of Life. We could say &#8220;God Haters&#8221;.</p>
<p>One inconsistency I would like to point out is the green push for bio-fuels only worsening any food shortage. The greenies would rather we use corn to fuel their cars than feed our kids.</p>
<p>Jeremy Peet</p>
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		<title>By: michelle shave</title>
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		<dc:creator>michelle shave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who may not have seen it, the video Muslim Demographics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU, puts the over population issue onto another scale.

Also digressing slightly but touching on the issue of greening the globe as mentioned by Murray, it&#039;s interesting, if not concerning to note that post Black Saturday&#039;s firestorms in Victoria, and following a global trend, there was little if any mention in the official reports of the impact of &#039;green tape&#039; contributing to the devastation. This despite the fact that at the time, reports surfaced of multiple households that were destroyed because of Council regulations that prohibited clearing of foliage. This was highlighted by the instance of one such homeowner who refused to comply with Council regulations and cleared trees on his own property anyway.While he incurred heavy Council fines for this sacrilegious act, his was the only property in that area that was not destroyed in the fires. I believe he is now suing the Council to recover these fines. Will similar action be taken towards those governing bodies whose green doctrine policy demands led to the excessive eucalyptus oil build up which was a major factor in fueling the fire storms?  I guess it comes down to how green in my council and how supportive is the general  community of their pantheistic mantras?

Either way both these &#039;issues&#039; of overpopulation and green globing come together in the secular humanist world view that ironically removes God from His creation, sets man at the center of the formula only to discover man has become toxic and so they are now obliged to set about removing him in order to save the planet....  This will of course necessitate them having to expend themselves, Greenies being major hot air contributors....!!! Romans 1:22 says it best - &quot;Claiming themselves to be wise, they became utter fools instead...&quot;

Michelle Shave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who may not have seen it, the video Muslim Demographics <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU</a>, puts the over population issue onto another scale.</p>
<p>Also digressing slightly but touching on the issue of greening the globe as mentioned by Murray, it&#8217;s interesting, if not concerning to note that post Black Saturday&#8217;s firestorms in Victoria, and following a global trend, there was little if any mention in the official reports of the impact of &#8216;green tape&#8217; contributing to the devastation. This despite the fact that at the time, reports surfaced of multiple households that were destroyed because of Council regulations that prohibited clearing of foliage. This was highlighted by the instance of one such homeowner who refused to comply with Council regulations and cleared trees on his own property anyway.While he incurred heavy Council fines for this sacrilegious act, his was the only property in that area that was not destroyed in the fires. I believe he is now suing the Council to recover these fines. Will similar action be taken towards those governing bodies whose green doctrine policy demands led to the excessive eucalyptus oil build up which was a major factor in fueling the fire storms?  I guess it comes down to how green in my council and how supportive is the general  community of their pantheistic mantras?</p>
<p>Either way both these &#8216;issues&#8217; of overpopulation and green globing come together in the secular humanist world view that ironically removes God from His creation, sets man at the center of the formula only to discover man has become toxic and so they are now obliged to set about removing him in order to save the planet&#8230;.  This will of course necessitate them having to expend themselves, Greenies being major hot air contributors&#8230;.!!! Romans 1:22 says it best &#8211; &#8220;Claiming themselves to be wise, they became utter fools instead&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Michelle Shave</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Petridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane Petridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cameron Diaz will pollute the world ten times over than five, four-children families in my community.
Jane Petridge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cameron Diaz will pollute the world ten times over than five, four-children families in my community.<br />
Jane Petridge</p>
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		<title>By: Murray Adamthwaite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murray Adamthwaite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 06:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bill.
There are two factors to this &quot;save the planet&quot; mantra in connection with the alleged population explosion:
One is global warming. Because humans breathe in ordinary air, comprising something less than 0.04% CO2, and breathe out a mix comprising 4% CO2, a 10,000% increase no less, then quite simply for the radical &#039;greenie&#039; this is unsustainable and must be stopped - the sooner the better. Hence they advocate radical population reduction. Of course, after this programme has been carried out it is the greenies - naturally - who will inherit the earth!

The other is, as you mention above the old canard about food supply. Even here in Australia we have the resources to feed much of the world - if we would only exploit it. For years some have envisaged a network of dams across the &#039;top end&#039;, and pipelines to convey that excess of water to where it is needed, and thus drought-proof the country, as well as open up much more land for cultivation. As it stands, Lake Argyle south of Kununurra, holds ten times the volume of Sydney Harbour, yet much of its water goes to waste. Only now are people realising that this area holds much potential for agriculture. If only some enterprising people would do the same elsewhere in the North. But of course, the greenies and their government lackeys would obstruct it every inch of the way. Those people are profoundly anti-human (except for themselves), and want ot take us all back to the caves.

One other thing about green propaganda: their dogma that the environment is &quot;fragile&quot; and once &quot;damaged&quot; it will never recover. You hear this line relentlessly, and it is so contrary to fact. To take but one example: Krakatoa, which exploded in 1883 and left both Southern Sumatra and Western Java a moonscape, has now rejuvenated to such an extent, with the jungle so thick, that it is all but impenetrable. Likewise with Australia&#039;s Snowy Mountains Scheme: today such a project would never have been undertaken for &quot;environmental reasons&quot; - but the alpine forests have rejuvenated very nicely indeed!

Murray Adamthwaite</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bill.<br />
There are two factors to this &#8220;save the planet&#8221; mantra in connection with the alleged population explosion:<br />
One is global warming. Because humans breathe in ordinary air, comprising something less than 0.04% CO2, and breathe out a mix comprising 4% CO2, a 10,000% increase no less, then quite simply for the radical &#8216;greenie&#8217; this is unsustainable and must be stopped &#8211; the sooner the better. Hence they advocate radical population reduction. Of course, after this programme has been carried out it is the greenies &#8211; naturally &#8211; who will inherit the earth!</p>
<p>The other is, as you mention above the old canard about food supply. Even here in Australia we have the resources to feed much of the world &#8211; if we would only exploit it. For years some have envisaged a network of dams across the &#8216;top end&#8217;, and pipelines to convey that excess of water to where it is needed, and thus drought-proof the country, as well as open up much more land for cultivation. As it stands, Lake Argyle south of Kununurra, holds ten times the volume of Sydney Harbour, yet much of its water goes to waste. Only now are people realising that this area holds much potential for agriculture. If only some enterprising people would do the same elsewhere in the North. But of course, the greenies and their government lackeys would obstruct it every inch of the way. Those people are profoundly anti-human (except for themselves), and want ot take us all back to the caves.</p>
<p>One other thing about green propaganda: their dogma that the environment is &#8220;fragile&#8221; and once &#8220;damaged&#8221; it will never recover. You hear this line relentlessly, and it is so contrary to fact. To take but one example: Krakatoa, which exploded in 1883 and left both Southern Sumatra and Western Java a moonscape, has now rejuvenated to such an extent, with the jungle so thick, that it is all but impenetrable. Likewise with Australia&#8217;s Snowy Mountains Scheme: today such a project would never have been undertaken for &#8220;environmental reasons&#8221; &#8211; but the alpine forests have rejuvenated very nicely indeed!</p>
<p>Murray Adamthwaite</p>
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