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		<title>By: daniel hamilton</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/06/22/more-jaundiced-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-145098</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you see, it all  began in Genesis. There God created the women for the man, as his uniquely compatible and complementary &quot;helpmeet,&quot; after showing that other creations just would not do. (Gn. 2:18-24; cf. 1Cor. 11:8) And this union of opposite genders is the only one God sanctified by marriage, while only condemning homosexual relations wherever it is explicitly dealt with. And none of the inordinate attempts by pro homosexual polemicists to negate the Biblical injunctions against homosex, or to force homosex into passages it does not belong in, can withstand sound examination. http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Homosex_versus_the_Bible.html 

But what also happened in Genesis was the manifestation of liberal rebellion and its victim mentality, with its revisionist theology, as the devil sought to be portray Eve as the victim as a malevolent moral authority, and to indulge in what was forbidden. (Gn. 3) 

The MSM is largely of the same spirit, and as Pilate and Herod became friends due to making Christ their common enemy, the MSM will promote most anything that will serve their desire to cast the living and true God out, and and exchange Him for one more to their liking, whether it be deity or man, so that they may further the 60&#039;s sensual revolution, which most of them are graduates of.

Daniel Hamilton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you see, it all  began in Genesis. There God created the women for the man, as his uniquely compatible and complementary &#8220;helpmeet,&#8221; after showing that other creations just would not do. (Gn. 2:18-24; cf. 1Cor. 11:8) And this union of opposite genders is the only one God sanctified by marriage, while only condemning homosexual relations wherever it is explicitly dealt with. And none of the inordinate attempts by pro homosexual polemicists to negate the Biblical injunctions against homosex, or to force homosex into passages it does not belong in, can withstand sound examination. <a href="http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Homosex_versus_the_Bible.html" rel="nofollow">peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Homosex_versus_the_Bible.html</a> </p>
<p>But what also happened in Genesis was the manifestation of liberal rebellion and its victim mentality, with its revisionist theology, as the devil sought to be portray Eve as the victim as a malevolent moral authority, and to indulge in what was forbidden. (Gn. 3) </p>
<p>The MSM is largely of the same spirit, and as Pilate and Herod became friends due to making Christ their common enemy, the MSM will promote most anything that will serve their desire to cast the living and true God out, and and exchange Him for one more to their liking, whether it be deity or man, so that they may further the 60&#8242;s sensual revolution, which most of them are graduates of.</p>
<p>Daniel Hamilton</p>
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		<title>By: John Snowden</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/06/22/more-jaundiced-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-144446</link>
		<dc:creator>John Snowden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Then the next day a deluge of attack letters will appear. It is all a setup, in other words.&quot;

During the late fifties I had a high school friend who went on to become a top journalism student at the University of Queensland. He eventually got a job at a local newspaper where managing letters to the editor was one of his duties. He admitted to me that he fabricated some letters to liven things up. Makes one wonder what goes on behind the scenes these days.

John Snowden</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Then the next day a deluge of attack letters will appear. It is all a setup, in other words.&#8221;</p>
<p>During the late fifties I had a high school friend who went on to become a top journalism student at the University of Queensland. He eventually got a job at a local newspaper where managing letters to the editor was one of his duties. He admitted to me that he fabricated some letters to liven things up. Makes one wonder what goes on behind the scenes these days.</p>
<p>John Snowden</p>
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		<title>By: Lou d'Alpuget</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/06/22/more-jaundiced-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-144420</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou d'Alpuget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Bill,
               This poor woman Lisa Pryor seems to be making the same mistake that the pharisees made when they accused Jesus of eating with sinners and tax collectors in Luke 15, which was of course the reason Jesus told the wonderful parables of the lost sheep, coin and then prodigal sons. She misunderstands Christian motives in accepting all people as welcome in our churches. All people are welcome, but that does not mean we condone their lifestyles. The pharisees thought that Jesus was condoning the lifestyles of the prostitutes and tax collectors by eating with them. No way!! He was celebrating His and His Fathers&#039; grace and their ACCEPTANCE of Their grace with them. We are the same to these homosexual activists. Despite their ramblings, we can still celebrate Christs&#039; love for them, even if they don&#039;t get it. Partys&#039; been going for the last 2000 odd years!
May the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth open these peoples&#039; eyes to see the harmful effects of their one-sided propoganda.
Blessings,
Lou d&#039;Alpuget</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Bill,<br />
               This poor woman Lisa Pryor seems to be making the same mistake that the pharisees made when they accused Jesus of eating with sinners and tax collectors in Luke 15, which was of course the reason Jesus told the wonderful parables of the lost sheep, coin and then prodigal sons. She misunderstands Christian motives in accepting all people as welcome in our churches. All people are welcome, but that does not mean we condone their lifestyles. The pharisees thought that Jesus was condoning the lifestyles of the prostitutes and tax collectors by eating with them. No way!! He was celebrating His and His Fathers&#8217; grace and their ACCEPTANCE of Their grace with them. We are the same to these homosexual activists. Despite their ramblings, we can still celebrate Christs&#8217; love for them, even if they don&#8217;t get it. Partys&#8217; been going for the last 2000 odd years!<br />
May the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth open these peoples&#8217; eyes to see the harmful effects of their one-sided propoganda.<br />
Blessings,<br />
Lou d&#8217;Alpuget</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/06/22/more-jaundiced-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-144417</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mark

Yes that is another common tactic of the secular left MSM which I have experienced first hand over the years. They will print a token conservative letter, pretending they are being balanced. Then the next day a deluge of attack letters will appear. It is all a setup, in other words. And they most likely simply told their secular left buddies to write in the letters. 

This is your typical even-handedness in the MSM.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mark</p>
<p>Yes that is another common tactic of the secular left MSM which I have experienced first hand over the years. They will print a token conservative letter, pretending they are being balanced. Then the next day a deluge of attack letters will appear. It is all a setup, in other words. And they most likely simply told their secular left buddies to write in the letters. </p>
<p>This is your typical even-handedness in the MSM.</p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Rabich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Rabich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unbelievable.

The SMH published no less than 5 critical responses to Chris Meney&#039;s excellent letter, and none in support (and I know they received at least &lt;i&gt;one&lt;/i&gt;).  Not surprisingly, the inherent stupidity and illogical thoughts in them echoed the overwhelming dumbness of Pryor&#039;s original article.  Of course, there is the usual mixing up of the reasons for the institution with the individuals taking advantage of it.  But the one that took the cake was the factually incorrect claim that marriage has been strengthened in Scandinavia since the acceptance of same-sex marriage.  That is a blatant and evil lie.  The exact opposite has in fact been documented by Stanley Kurtz, even when challenged about his conclusions.

http://www.nationalreview.com/kurtz/kurtz200402020917.asp
http://www.nationalreview.com/kurtz/kurtz200405040841.asp

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/letters/its-a-sorry-state-when-elderly-tenants-are-turfed-out-20090623-cv7w.html?page=-1

Yes indeed, debate and reason on this subject are closed according to the SMH.

Mark Rabich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelievable.</p>
<p>The SMH published no less than 5 critical responses to Chris Meney&#8217;s excellent letter, and none in support (and I know they received at least <i>one</i>).  Not surprisingly, the inherent stupidity and illogical thoughts in them echoed the overwhelming dumbness of Pryor&#8217;s original article.  Of course, there is the usual mixing up of the reasons for the institution with the individuals taking advantage of it.  But the one that took the cake was the factually incorrect claim that marriage has been strengthened in Scandinavia since the acceptance of same-sex marriage.  That is a blatant and evil lie.  The exact opposite has in fact been documented by Stanley Kurtz, even when challenged about his conclusions.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/kurtz/kurtz200402020917.asp" rel="nofollow">www.nationalreview.com/kurtz/kurtz200402020917.asp</a><br />
<a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/kurtz/kurtz200405040841.asp" rel="nofollow">www.nationalreview.com/kurtz/kurtz200405040841.asp</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/letters/its-a-sorry-state-when-elderly-tenants-are-turfed-out-20090623-cv7w.html?page=-1" rel="nofollow">www.smh.com.au/opinion/letters/its-a-sorry-state-when-elderly-tenants-are-turfed-out-20090623-cv7w.html?page=-1</a></p>
<p>Yes indeed, debate and reason on this subject are closed according to the SMH.</p>
<p>Mark Rabich</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Halligan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia Halligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Bill, Don&#039;t worry YOUR standard of writing hasn&#039;t slipped.That&#039;s why so many log in regularly to CultureWatch. It is the standards of newspaper articles which have slipped. That is why hardly anyone who enjoys a good newspaper article hardly ever buys them. If anyone has the misfortune to encounter a bigot then one could ask them this simple question: &#039;If it were possible to reasonably answer all the  arguments you have put forward would you be satisfied then?&#039; Arguments such as God&#039;s Existence, The Virgin Birth, the Resurrection, The Inquisition, etc etc. The answer would most likely be no because the problem lies not in having the arguments reasonably answered but in the person themselves. They just don&#039;t want to see another point of view because it would cost them too much like giving up something to hate and ridicule.   Yours Sincerely and God Bless,
Patricia Halligan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Bill, Don&#8217;t worry YOUR standard of writing hasn&#8217;t slipped.That&#8217;s why so many log in regularly to CultureWatch. It is the standards of newspaper articles which have slipped. That is why hardly anyone who enjoys a good newspaper article hardly ever buys them. If anyone has the misfortune to encounter a bigot then one could ask them this simple question: &#8216;If it were possible to reasonably answer all the  arguments you have put forward would you be satisfied then?&#8217; Arguments such as God&#8217;s Existence, The Virgin Birth, the Resurrection, The Inquisition, etc etc. The answer would most likely be no because the problem lies not in having the arguments reasonably answered but in the person themselves. They just don&#8217;t want to see another point of view because it would cost them too much like giving up something to hate and ridicule.   Yours Sincerely and God Bless,<br />
Patricia Halligan</p>
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		<title>By: John Snowden</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Snowden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had my own brush with the media. Years ago I posted to a local newspaper what I thought was a straightforward letter critical of homosexuality. The next day, after coming home from work, I was surprised to hear from my wife that a journalist rang her up to find out more about me. My letter was published but censored, removing references to the medical problems to which homosexuals are prone. This happened at a time when the newspaper in question was changing from a conservative family-friendly journal to a politically correct rag that seems designed for the new generation of Leftwing, not- religious, bourgeois yuppies. Newspapers are not the only ones that can misrepresent dissenting views. The worst offenders in my experience have been Humanist journals.

The good news about politically correct types like Ms Pryor is that they are very error prone. They are like ducks in a barrel providing you with the ammunition you need. Their generation will eventually die out. Cleaning up their mess will take time.

John Snowden</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had my own brush with the media. Years ago I posted to a local newspaper what I thought was a straightforward letter critical of homosexuality. The next day, after coming home from work, I was surprised to hear from my wife that a journalist rang her up to find out more about me. My letter was published but censored, removing references to the medical problems to which homosexuals are prone. This happened at a time when the newspaper in question was changing from a conservative family-friendly journal to a politically correct rag that seems designed for the new generation of Leftwing, not- religious, bourgeois yuppies. Newspapers are not the only ones that can misrepresent dissenting views. The worst offenders in my experience have been Humanist journals.</p>
<p>The good news about politically correct types like Ms Pryor is that they are very error prone. They are like ducks in a barrel providing you with the ammunition you need. Their generation will eventually die out. Cleaning up their mess will take time.</p>
<p>John Snowden</p>
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		<title>By: John Angelico</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Angelico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She has managed to avoid properly arguing the truth of these complex issues by tossing innuendos at &quot;half-truths&quot; of things like the common grace of God to all mankind.

But sadly, it sounds as if she has had a bad experience of the &quot;Christian&quot; church in her past. I wonder at the sense of bitterness behind her caricatures of Christian wedding ceremonies.

But I agree, Bill that none of that excuses the SMH and similar press outlets giving her such a forum to promulgate her views.

John Angelico</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She has managed to avoid properly arguing the truth of these complex issues by tossing innuendos at &#8220;half-truths&#8221; of things like the common grace of God to all mankind.</p>
<p>But sadly, it sounds as if she has had a bad experience of the &#8220;Christian&#8221; church in her past. I wonder at the sense of bitterness behind her caricatures of Christian wedding ceremonies.</p>
<p>But I agree, Bill that none of that excuses the SMH and similar press outlets giving her such a forum to promulgate her views.</p>
<p>John Angelico</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Rabich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Rabich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent letter in response to the article:
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/letters/redefining-marriage-on-a-whim-is-not-the-states-job-20090622-ctv9.html

BTW, what is it with so many people that they can&#039;t seem to figure out that if God doesn&#039;t denounce homosexuality anymore as per Leviticus 18 &amp; 20, then incest must be OK now as well?  Or explain why Jesus quoted from right between the two (Leviticus 19:18) in stating the second greatest commandment and also didn&#039;t exactly have glowing words to say about Sodom and Gomorrah?

I happen to have just finished going through Exodus and am just starting Leviticus, so it&#039;s pretty clear to me that Pryor&#039;s approach to Scripture is shallow and twisted.

Mark Rabich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent letter in response to the article:<br />
<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/letters/redefining-marriage-on-a-whim-is-not-the-states-job-20090622-ctv9.html" rel="nofollow">www.smh.com.au/opinion/letters/redefining-marriage-on-a-whim-is-not-the-states-job-20090622-ctv9.html</a></p>
<p>BTW, what is it with so many people that they can&#8217;t seem to figure out that if God doesn&#8217;t denounce homosexuality anymore as per Leviticus 18 &amp; 20, then incest must be OK now as well?  Or explain why Jesus quoted from right between the two (Leviticus 19:18) in stating the second greatest commandment and also didn&#8217;t exactly have glowing words to say about Sodom and Gomorrah?</p>
<p>I happen to have just finished going through Exodus and am just starting Leviticus, so it&#8217;s pretty clear to me that Pryor&#8217;s approach to Scripture is shallow and twisted.</p>
<p>Mark Rabich</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Twiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Twiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Words fall upon the facts like soft snow, blurring the outline and covering up all the details. -George Owell

We now live in an age where there is a proliferation of words that are meaningless and senseless. Perhaps in the future they will look back upon this age as time of the great redefinition where logic and reason were obscured by that vast propaganda of a disobedient and rebellious people who thought they knew better than God Himself and the testimony of His providence in history.

Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? (1 Corinthians 1:20)

Better to be a fool for Christ than a hero of the broadsheets.

Phil Twiss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Words fall upon the facts like soft snow, blurring the outline and covering up all the details. -George Owell</p>
<p>We now live in an age where there is a proliferation of words that are meaningless and senseless. Perhaps in the future they will look back upon this age as time of the great redefinition where logic and reason were obscured by that vast propaganda of a disobedient and rebellious people who thought they knew better than God Himself and the testimony of His providence in history.</p>
<p>Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? (1 Corinthians 1:20)</p>
<p>Better to be a fool for Christ than a hero of the broadsheets.</p>
<p>Phil Twiss</p>
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