Nino Suraci

Sadly, the more I dig into Tony Campolo’s public declarations, and then, even worse, what his wife Peggy has to say on the subject, they obviously do not consider the Gospel to have authority over fallible man. They claim a high view of Scripture but it is obvious that if there is a choice between offending man and offending God, then it is pretty obvious who will lose.

www.abpnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3469&Itemid=9

www.bridges-across.org/ba/campolo.htm

A good comment here:
www.cultureandfamily.org/articledisplay.asp?id=348&department=CFI&categoryid=cfreport

Pictures of Campolo on the following link from early in May. So we know what he stands for. (But I would love to believe there was a tiny voice in his conscience telling him that it was wrong to be there.)
www.theird.org/Page.aspx?pid=1022

When I had a quick look at the ‘Human Rights’ website, I was quite simply gobsmacked. The distortion and twisting of what God says is rampant. But Jesus gave us a very simple litmus test:

“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Matthew 7:15-23

By their fruit… so what is the fruit of homosexuality? No children (obviously) but also this – homosexual behaviour kills. HIV/AIDS and rectal cancer are but two sicknesses that rob the community of otherwise productive human beings (not to mention, family, friends, colleagues) and in the meantime often force us to pay for their treatment via tax dollars. (Of course a cure for AIDS would be great, but having less cases would be even better to begin with.) And sure, those conditions are not exclusive to those who have homosexual sex, but the behaviour (especially male-to-male) is definitely substantially riskier than normal sex. (For AIDS especially, I’m talking about extremely risky, something you’re not likely to hear widely because it’s not PC) The cost of all this in economic terms must be astronomic. The cost in human terms is too tragic to think about. That Christians could endorse this behaviour is unconscionable.

Homosexual behaviour is simply unhealthy compared to normal sex.
www.rethinkingaids.com/Portals/0/RaArchive/1997/RA9709SexLiesAndBrody.html

“I’m not saying that it is impossible for unprotected vaginal intercourse to transmit HIV from a positive to a healthy adult negative partner,” Brody told RA in a telephone interview from his Los Angeles-area home. “Anything’s possible. It’s possible to be struck by lightning. But the two risks share an analogous probability, effectively zero. If healthy, HIV-negative Americans want to worry about unprotected vaginal intercourse, they should worry about the drive over to their encounters. If their partners have never injected drugs or received rectal intercourse or blood therapy, they are more likely to be killed in an automobile accident on the ride over than they are to become HIV-positive.”

Brody says that a risk-free American who has a single act of unprotected coitus with a random risk-free partner is about as likely to become HIV-positive as “be struck multiple times by lightning in one year, or win several state lotteries.”
Scientists and physicians ignore these facts, and instead promote the politically correct idea that “everyone is at risk.” “Ideological knowledge about AIDS is far more likely to filter through society than scientific knowledge,”

To add to all that, I wonder if those pictured in the theird.org link above have considered that Christians will be punished by the law if so-called ‘discrimination’ is ended? Yes, those who follow Christ faithfully, who think marriage is just about men and women, mums and dads and kids and grandkids, and uncles and aunts etc. etc. will be punished for daring to believe and live like God had a specific purpose in mind when he created the two halves of sex and that any deviation from the natural use of that is wrong. Would the Campolos applaud when children are effectively forced into ‘re-education’ while their parents are sent to jail for believing what just makes sense biologically? They might claim they don’t want that, but they would be deluding themselves that that would not be the outcome of what they are advocating, since it has already begun elsewhere. (Would love to be a fly on the wall if Sweden’s Ake Green or David Parker from Massachusetts ever met the Campolos) We already knew this society has a death wish, but why are Christians jumping on board this evil train? You cannot cheerfully condone something this diabolical – and simultaneously punish those who want to advocate something good – for an extended period of time and not pay a terrible price. And this is a price that everyone in that community has to pay, whether they want to, or not. And then, for each individual, there is eternity… What a ridiculous and untenable position the Campolos hold.

So, considering all that, I would love any of those apostates pictured in the link above to give their comment on the following video (beware, graphic)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7j87OWaFx4&feature=player_embedded

Strangely enough, I don’t consider it ‘loving’ or ‘welcoming’ or ‘affirming’ to condone behaviour that has a substantially greater chance of making you look like David in that video. Not remotely. I would hope people would understand it is the highest act of compassion to plead and campaign that people would reject that behaviour because it will hurt them (not to mention, spit in the face of God who made you with a glorious identity sexually fulfilled in the opposite.) I hasten to add, that I reject the methods of condemnation as exemplified by the infamous Westboro Baptist nutters. That is just the other false extreme to the Peggy Campolos and Bishop Spongs of this world.

This is crucial: You are not heterosexual or homosexual, that is the behaviour – you are male or female, that is the identity. Too often even opponents of the ‘gay agenda’ allow that error to fly past unchecked, and it matters because it effectively concedes that homosexuality is as immutable as skin or eye colour or gender. It is not. Read that sentence in bold again if you do not understand that, it is absolutely critical that you do. Adopting the language of the activists (ie. calling someone ‘gay’) is halfway to losing the battle merely by allowing them to identify as ‘homosexual’ rather than addressing it as a behavioural deviation that can be resisted. I’ve fallen into that trap in the past myself, but people should be awake to it. The English language doesn’t seem to help here because saying “a person who engages in homosexual sex” is just too long a description. And ‘gay’ is a nice easy short word by comparison. Hence the problem.

If you are a parent, then I guess you might be interested to know that the following shameless and evil indoctrination of children is also logically the kind of thing the Campolos effectively endorse:
www.massresistance.org/media/video/brainwashing.html
The scary thing is, the video is already 10 years old.

“Tolerance is how far a mechanical part can deviate from the norm before it screws up the entire machine.” – any mechanic

But to end on a positive note, one can be encouraged by this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy65tNr5FlQ&feature=player_embedded

Jesus is still changing lives! He never stops changing lives. He offers real hope and clarity rather than this fuzzy feelgood worldy piffle that has stupified the Campolos, amongst others. Do not be deceived like them. Let us pray that we continue to be instruments of that change for good, and not accept the fatalistic chains of immorality, self-loathing, hatred, violence and despair that characterize the so-called ‘equal rights’ gay movement. Jesus rose from the dead, so miracles are possible, in fact, that is what the faith is based on. How sad if all here on earth was all the human race had to hope in.

“…that is what some of you were.” 1 Cor 6:11 (my emphasis)

For more on so-called ‘gay Christianity’, this site is worth keeping an eye on:
gcmwatch.wordpress.com/

Mark Rabich

Love Nino

theologica.blogspot.com/2009/05/money-greed-and-god-why-capitalism-is.html

Simon Kennedy, VIC

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1115502/MELANIE-PHILLIPS–Harmans-latest-men-bashing-policy-just-odious–turns-morality-inside-out.html?ITO=1490

Perhaps, Mr Garry Newlove had acted unreasonably in remonstrating with youths who had been vandalising his wife’s car, knowing full well that they would find this offensive. His is a very sad story and shows the sort of permanent damage that those who conspire to encourage feelings of hatred in the behaviour of feral teenagers can do. He was responsible for aggravating the murderous rage of the gang, by standing up to them, and they convinced him of this by kicking him to death. No doubt about it. He and his family got all they deserved.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1575822/Garry-Newloves-widow-condemns-Government.html (Garry Newlove)
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1560278/Heartbreaking-letter-to-father-who-lay-dying.html (Garry Newlove)

Christians are no longer able to complain or appeal to a justice system, for the fact that they are offended, distressed or feel intimidated by homosexuals. Christians no longer have any right feel anything except the joy of seeing sin and evil displayed in our streets.

au.youtube.com/watch?v=GE6FDMJEiyo&feature=related

David Skinner, UK

Great quote Lousie, “The sons were fanatical for the faith where the fathers had been slack about it.”

When I read books about Christianity, revivals, expositions of the Bible, I tend toward books from earlier last century or even past centuries – simply because their approach to Christianity is simpler and more clear cut. The modern Western world, including many who represent western Christianty have strayed so far from the truth that they cannot recognise it anymore.

It is of no surprise to me that Christianity today is argued about in terms of left and right, socially responsible or fundamental – for many purporting to be Christian have turned from the truth in droves. Jesus showed us there is only one way, and it is fundamental, it is fanatical and it books no competititors to the sovereignty of God in our lives.

All of the apostacy of modern churches, and all of the persecution of Christians is bringing us to the same place that the developing world has been suffering for the best part of the century – and fast. Are we ready for it?

Garth Penglase

The world needs the Gospel of Our Lord Jesus Christ. It does not need secularists with a bit of God sprinkled on top. That is what these so-called “liberal Christians” are – just secularists with a religious dressing.

But I’d encourage you all to read the second last chapter of GK Chesterton’s “The Everlasting Man” which notes that at least five times in history (and probably many more) Christianity died — and then rose from the dead! “The sons were fanatical for the faith where the fathers had been slack about it.”

www.worldinvisible.com/library/chesterton/everlasting/part2c6.htm

This story isn’t over yet. Fight the good fight, Bill!

Louise Le Mottee, Hobart