Comments on: More Attacks on Our Toddlers http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/05/04/more-attacks-on-our-toddlers/ Bill Muehlenberg's commentary on issues of the day... Tue, 07 Sep 2010 00:13:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Michael Hutton http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/05/04/more-attacks-on-our-toddlers/comment-page-1/#comment-137714 Michael Hutton Mon, 11 May 2009 03:15:13 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1469#comment-137714 Is not the contrast between family structure and family connections and warmth a false dichotomy. If Dad's off with a new bimbo it doesn't just change the structure it shatters the warmth and connection. If there is no family structure (as in mix'n'match 'family' redefinitions) there is no warmth and connection. I would agree if the authors or anyone said a family structure without warmth and connection is no good. Absolutely. So lets maintain and honour a Biblical family structure with wamrth and connectivity. The Biblical family structure is all about warmth and connectivity... and discipline and direction and training and... God Bless, Michael Hutton, Ariah Park Is not the contrast between family structure and family connections and warmth a false dichotomy. If Dad’s off with a new bimbo it doesn’t just change the structure it shatters the warmth and connection. If there is no family structure (as in mix’n'match ‘family’ redefinitions) there is no warmth and connection.

I would agree if the authors or anyone said a family structure without warmth and connection is no good. Absolutely. So lets maintain and honour a Biblical family structure with wamrth and connectivity. The Biblical family structure is all about warmth and connectivity… and discipline and direction and training and…

God Bless,
Michael Hutton, Ariah Park

]]> By: Sue Pollock http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/05/04/more-attacks-on-our-toddlers/comment-page-1/#comment-137308 Sue Pollock Thu, 07 May 2009 07:39:40 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1469#comment-137308 This, as I said many years ago in a Letter to the Editor regarding the video being shown to my very young sons at school, is tantamount to teaching these young children all about herion, what it is, where to get it, how to load the needle and insert it into your arm, but saying "I am not going to be judgemental and tell them whether it's right or wrong - it's their choice!" What a joke! Idiocy!! .... and it is downright evil to be doing this to the future generations of our nation! We cannot allow it to continue. We cannot continue to play the Politically Correct game. We MUST confront the lies, the deception and the game of words - where the prize is the minds and bodies of our young ones. How DARE they! Arthur Hartwig This, as I said many years ago in a Letter to the Editor regarding the video being shown to my very young sons at school, is tantamount to teaching these young children all about herion, what it is, where to get it, how to load the needle and insert it into your arm, but saying “I am not going to be judgemental and tell them whether it’s right or wrong – it’s their choice!”

What a joke! Idiocy!! …. and it is downright evil to be doing this to the future generations of our nation! We cannot allow it to continue. We cannot continue to play the Politically Correct game. We MUST confront the lies, the deception and the game of words – where the prize is the minds and bodies of our young ones.

How DARE they!

Arthur Hartwig

]]> By: Catharine Carpenter http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/05/04/more-attacks-on-our-toddlers/comment-page-1/#comment-137230 Catharine Carpenter Wed, 06 May 2009 19:21:26 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1469#comment-137230 When I was 6 years old I visited my cousin who was also 6. She proceded to tell me all about about sexual intercourse etc from a book that her parents had given her - what I was told was not kids stuff. I was so disgusted with what my parents had done, I felt dirty that I now knew this, that I could not sleep that night, and what I had been told just went round and round my head and would not leave. I know I lost a bit of 'innocence' from that experience and I wish it never happened. The fact was, I was so young that I thought the act was disgusting, I certainly was not mature enough to be taught about it, or even think that it was a good thing in a marriage relationship. All I needed to know was that my parents really loved each other - not how they expressed it. I was disgusted about a normal, loving activity in a marriage - proof that I was not ready to know even though it was happening in the right context. Teaching me about homosexuality at 6 would have been tantamount to pornography! I think teaching me about sex at 6 was tantamount to pornography as well! I felt dirty, disgusted, and it did affect my relationship with my parents - I could not tell them what I now knew, nor could I look at them those first few days without having images flashing in my mind (I don't think the book had pictures, but my impressions of what I learned from it were graphic enough). Please, don't put a child through that! Especially at that age! Catharine Carpenter When I was 6 years old I visited my cousin who was also 6. She proceded to tell me all about about sexual intercourse etc from a book that her parents had given her – what I was told was not kids stuff. I was so disgusted with what my parents had done, I felt dirty that I now knew this, that I could not sleep that night, and what I had been told just went round and round my head and would not leave. I know I lost a bit of ‘innocence’ from that experience and I wish it never happened. The fact was, I was so young that I thought the act was disgusting, I certainly was not mature enough to be taught about it, or even think that it was a good thing in a marriage relationship. All I needed to know was that my parents really loved each other – not how they expressed it. I was disgusted about a normal, loving activity in a marriage – proof that I was not ready to know even though it was happening in the right context. Teaching me about homosexuality at 6 would have been tantamount to pornography! I think teaching me about sex at 6 was tantamount to pornography as well! I felt dirty, disgusted, and it did affect my relationship with my parents – I could not tell them what I now knew, nor could I look at them those first few days without having images flashing in my mind (I don’t think the book had pictures, but my impressions of what I learned from it were graphic enough). Please, don’t put a child through that! Especially at that age!

Catharine Carpenter

]]> By: Trevor Grace http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/05/04/more-attacks-on-our-toddlers/comment-page-1/#comment-137160 Trevor Grace Wed, 06 May 2009 11:58:31 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1469#comment-137160 When children can now pick up homosexual magazines in libraries that are sexually crude and explicit, and their parents complaints about this fall on deaf ears, it certainly is not so surprising homosexual activists are brazenly challenging parents for their toddlers' young minds and souls. Unfortunately, the majority of people (including Christians) are either too blind or too apathetic to the homosexual agenda, or just too fearful to speak out against it. While this is happening many children, including toddlers and even babies (ie as a results of IVF for lesbians and surrogacy for homosexuals), will fall prey to an ideology that has enormous emotional, physical and spiritual consequences. A few years ago (2005) the South Australian Labor Government and Health Department, along with other SA government departments, had the audacity to support and fund the Feast: Adelaide Lesbian and Gay Cultural Festival. This “cultural festival” had workshops that included flogging, sadomasochism, rope and genital bondage, and a host of other perverted activities. The festival was even described by our premier “as a festival with a strong ‘family’ theme”, and hailed by our former education minister as “… a must-see-and-do extravaganza of artistic splendour and enjoyment for all”. I should add the festival had a "Get Frock'd" (drag) workshop for youth. What was further disturbing about this homosexual festival is that it had free glossy Guide magazines (with sexually lewd images) promoting the event’s various programs, activities and films [including the most perverted 'how to do it' sex films that are too crude to elaborate on here], which were distributed in family restaurants, coffee shops, delis, public libraries, etc, around Adelaide. When I and another parent made complaints to various media organisations (TV, radio and newspaper), not only about the magazines being in easy reach of children, but how the SA Government and even Health Department were bizarrely funding the festival’s flogging and sadomasochism workshops, we were either repeatedly fobbed off or accused of being homophobic. Trevor Grace When children can now pick up homosexual magazines in libraries that are sexually crude and explicit, and their parents complaints about this fall on deaf ears, it certainly is not so surprising homosexual activists are brazenly challenging parents for their toddlers’ young minds and souls.

Unfortunately, the majority of people (including Christians) are either too blind or too apathetic to the homosexual agenda, or just too fearful to speak out against it. While this is happening many children, including toddlers and even babies (ie as a results of IVF for lesbians and surrogacy for homosexuals), will fall prey to an ideology that has enormous emotional, physical and spiritual consequences.

A few years ago (2005) the South Australian Labor Government and Health Department, along with other SA government departments, had the audacity to support and fund the Feast: Adelaide Lesbian and Gay Cultural Festival.

This “cultural festival” had workshops that included flogging, sadomasochism, rope and genital bondage, and a host of other perverted activities. The festival was even described by our premier “as a festival with a strong ‘family’ theme”, and hailed by our former education minister as “… a must-see-and-do extravaganza of artistic splendour and enjoyment for all”. I should add the festival had a “Get Frock’d” (drag) workshop for youth.

What was further disturbing about this homosexual festival is that it had free glossy Guide magazines (with sexually lewd images) promoting the event’s various programs, activities and films [including the most perverted 'how to do it' sex films that are too crude to elaborate on here], which were distributed in family restaurants, coffee shops, delis, public libraries, etc, around Adelaide.

When I and another parent made complaints to various media organisations (TV, radio and newspaper), not only about the magazines being in easy reach of children, but how the SA Government and even Health Department were bizarrely funding the festival’s flogging and sadomasochism workshops, we were either repeatedly fobbed off or accused of being homophobic.

Trevor Grace

]]> By: Katharine Hornsby http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/05/04/more-attacks-on-our-toddlers/comment-page-1/#comment-137128 Katharine Hornsby Wed, 06 May 2009 06:24:01 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1469#comment-137128 Romans 1 verses 22 to 32 spring to mind. This and the sad story of Alex make me weep. As another contributor said "only God can stop this madness" - or words to that effect. May this drive us to prayer for the situation and right action where/when possible. Let us never forget how we have allowed the demise of opposite sex morality to occur without much fuss, though, as we (rightly) decry homosexual immorality. Katharine Hornsby Romans 1 verses 22 to 32 spring to mind. This and the sad story of Alex make me weep. As another contributor said “only God can stop this madness” – or words to that effect. May this drive us to prayer for the situation and right action where/when possible. Let us never forget how we have allowed the demise of opposite sex morality to occur without much fuss, though, as we (rightly) decry homosexual immorality.
Katharine Hornsby

]]> By: Kelly Williams http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/05/04/more-attacks-on-our-toddlers/comment-page-1/#comment-137122 Kelly Williams Wed, 06 May 2009 05:30:11 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1469#comment-137122 Sex ed books are a dumb idea to begin with. Parents should be the ones doing the educating here. If only more parents would do this. So many young people find that they can't talk to their parents at all. Kelly Williams Sex ed books are a dumb idea to begin with. Parents should be the ones doing the educating here. If only more parents would do this. So many young people find that they can’t talk to their parents at all.
Kelly Williams

]]> By: Madge Fahy http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/05/04/more-attacks-on-our-toddlers/comment-page-1/#comment-137100 Madge Fahy Wed, 06 May 2009 02:33:12 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1469#comment-137100 This book is child abuse which will rob children of their childhood. No one has the right to do that. The media has become a power force in promoting the work of Satan. Today we are engaged in a 'spiritual battle' and it is one we cannot ignore. We must be part of the battle. If anyone doubts that the persecution of Christianity hasn't begun then one is not facing reality (read the comments on the Herald Sun web page re footy on Good Friday). These are dark times and as things get worse the only light will be the 'Light of Christ". Let us pray first and then act. Madge Fahy This book is child abuse which will rob children of their childhood. No one has the right to do that.
The media has become a power force in promoting the work of Satan.
Today we are engaged in a ’spiritual battle’ and it is one we cannot ignore. We must be part of the battle. If anyone doubts that the persecution of Christianity hasn’t begun then one is not facing reality (read the comments on the Herald Sun web page re footy on Good Friday).
These are dark times and as things get worse the only light will be the ‘Light of Christ”. Let us pray first and then act.
Madge Fahy

]]> By: James A Woods http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/05/04/more-attacks-on-our-toddlers/comment-page-1/#comment-137074 James A Woods Tue, 05 May 2009 20:45:04 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1469#comment-137074 Studies of criminal behavior reveal that pedophiles often give their victims sexualy graphic material before harming them physicaly. Any author or publisher who would participate in the same disgusting behavior as a pedophile should be avoided as a rule. James A Woods Studies of criminal behavior reveal that pedophiles often give their victims sexualy graphic material before harming them physicaly. Any author or publisher who would participate in the same disgusting behavior as a pedophile should be avoided as a rule.
James A Woods

]]> By: Nino Suraci http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/05/04/more-attacks-on-our-toddlers/comment-page-1/#comment-137008 Nino Suraci Tue, 05 May 2009 06:12:05 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1469#comment-137008 Thank's Mansel, that definately deserves an "Amen." Nino Suraci Thank’s Mansel, that definately deserves an “Amen.”

Nino Suraci

]]> By: Mansel Rogerson http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/05/04/more-attacks-on-our-toddlers/comment-page-1/#comment-136989 Mansel Rogerson Tue, 05 May 2009 03:14:47 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/?p=1469#comment-136989 Hi Nino and others, Extrapolating present trends, it is certainly true that the prognosis for the west is complete moral bankruptcy. It is also true that there is nothing in man, himself, which can pull us back from the brink. It is therefore tempting to conclude that our society has reached such a state as to render self-destruction inevitable. We must remember, however, in the current situation, just as much as when things are going well, it is always God, and God alone who saves both individuals and nations. I hope the increasing degeneracy will not push Christians into apathy, but will rather strengthen us in our complete reliance upon God. Now, more than ever, we need to keep praying and working for what is always society’s only hope - revival of faith in Jesus Christ in our land. With man this seems impossible, but with God anything is possible. Mansel Rogerson Hi Nino and others,

Extrapolating present trends, it is certainly true that the prognosis for the west is complete moral bankruptcy. It is also true that there is nothing in man, himself, which can pull us back from the brink. It is therefore tempting to conclude that our society has reached such a state as to render self-destruction inevitable.

We must remember, however, in the current situation, just as much as when things are going well, it is always God, and God alone who saves both individuals and nations.

I hope the increasing degeneracy will not push Christians into apathy, but will rather strengthen us in our complete reliance upon God. Now, more than ever, we need to keep praying and working for what is always society’s only hope – revival of faith in Jesus Christ in our land. With man this seems impossible, but with God anything is possible.

Mansel Rogerson

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