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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/04/28/scenes-from-the-abortion-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-137192</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now we are up to 66 Bishops. Go Bishops!
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/may/09050509.html 

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now we are up to 66 Bishops. Go Bishops!<br />
<a href="http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/may/09050509.html" rel="nofollow">www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/may/09050509.html</a> </p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Byrne</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/04/28/scenes-from-the-abortion-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-136258</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most currently everyone is talking about the &quot;swine-flu&quot; with the capacity to kill many, many thousands of people. However God would say to us, what about my babies slaughted every day without even the slightest of fuss!
Jane Byrne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most currently everyone is talking about the &#8220;swine-flu&#8221; with the capacity to kill many, many thousands of people. However God would say to us, what about my babies slaughted every day without even the slightest of fuss!<br />
Jane Byrne</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the article Bill. We don&#039;t often hear about our brothers and sisters in the Lord making a strong stand for what is morally right, particularly being prepared to go to jail for the unborn (as pastor Walter Hoye diid). So it&#039;s encouraging to hear of these stories. I also concur with earlier comments by Tas Walker regarding Queenslander Graham Preston. Graham and his wife Liz (and their family) are real gems - Christian heroes in the true sense, for their amazing perseverance, personal and economic sacrifice (as Graham has spent many a long months in prison) for standing up for the unborn.  
Trevor Grace (SA)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article Bill. We don&#8217;t often hear about our brothers and sisters in the Lord making a strong stand for what is morally right, particularly being prepared to go to jail for the unborn (as pastor Walter Hoye diid). So it&#8217;s encouraging to hear of these stories. I also concur with earlier comments by Tas Walker regarding Queenslander Graham Preston. Graham and his wife Liz (and their family) are real gems &#8211; Christian heroes in the true sense, for their amazing perseverance, personal and economic sacrifice (as Graham has spent many a long months in prison) for standing up for the unborn.<br />
Trevor Grace (SA)</p>
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		<title>By: John FG McMahon</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/04/28/scenes-from-the-abortion-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-136202</link>
		<dc:creator>John FG McMahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Where are the other 90%?&quot; Now, Bill, the answer is evident. So many Clergy are now caught up in &quot;Liberation theology&quot;, feminist agendas and the politics of today. Take for example the case of St Mary&#039;s in South Brisbane. Archbishop Bathersby admitted that he believed in what &quot;Father&quot; Kennedy was doing but he, Bathersby, was forced to do what he had to do. So Bathersby agrees with Kennedy that Jesus wasn&#039;t God etc. I suspect about 90-95% of the Clergy are Labor Party supporters if not members. Pope Bennedict has said that the Church should get smaller; in words jettison those such as Bathersby, Kennedy, Geofrrey Robinson and so many of their ilk who are Catholic in name only, not in preaching and living the Word of God.

There is a Priest on the Sunshine Coast who organized a petition against the Israelis earlier this year but is unable to find the energy nor the time to organize a petition against abortion. In fact he took the trouble of contacting the media over the petition against Israel and had a photograph of himself together with his story in the local newspaper as well as the Courier Mail.

But I plod on with my precious Catholic Faith because these words ring in my ears: &quot;If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. If you were of this world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.&quot;

John FG McMahon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Where are the other 90%?&#8221; Now, Bill, the answer is evident. So many Clergy are now caught up in &#8220;Liberation theology&#8221;, feminist agendas and the politics of today. Take for example the case of St Mary&#8217;s in South Brisbane. Archbishop Bathersby admitted that he believed in what &#8220;Father&#8221; Kennedy was doing but he, Bathersby, was forced to do what he had to do. So Bathersby agrees with Kennedy that Jesus wasn&#8217;t God etc. I suspect about 90-95% of the Clergy are Labor Party supporters if not members. Pope Bennedict has said that the Church should get smaller; in words jettison those such as Bathersby, Kennedy, Geofrrey Robinson and so many of their ilk who are Catholic in name only, not in preaching and living the Word of God.</p>
<p>There is a Priest on the Sunshine Coast who organized a petition against the Israelis earlier this year but is unable to find the energy nor the time to organize a petition against abortion. In fact he took the trouble of contacting the media over the petition against Israel and had a photograph of himself together with his story in the local newspaper as well as the Courier Mail.</p>
<p>But I plod on with my precious Catholic Faith because these words ring in my ears: &#8220;If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. If you were of this world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.&#8221;</p>
<p>John FG McMahon</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/04/28/scenes-from-the-abortion-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-136198</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks John

But hey, don’t I already have enough work to do!? Seriously though, thanks for the tip. I copied the list from the website, pasted it into Word, and did a count of paragraphs, and it seems to be around 450 names. So that means only about one tenth have so far come out publically on this. Where are the other 90 per cent?

Thanks again for providing the answer – or the path to the answer! If someone wants to do an actual count of names, here is the link to the list: http://www.usccb.org/bishops.shtml 

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks John</p>
<p>But hey, don’t I already have enough work to do!? Seriously though, thanks for the tip. I copied the list from the website, pasted it into Word, and did a count of paragraphs, and it seems to be around 450 names. So that means only about one tenth have so far come out publically on this. Where are the other 90 per cent?</p>
<p>Thanks again for providing the answer – or the path to the answer! If someone wants to do an actual count of names, here is the link to the list: <a href="http://www.usccb.org/bishops.shtml" rel="nofollow">www.usccb.org/bishops.shtml</a> </p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: John FG McMahon</title>
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		<dc:creator>John FG McMahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

Each country has its Conference of Catholic Bishops. So if you check the website for &quot;United States Conference of Catholic Bishops&quot; you will find in the section titled &quot;Bishops&quot; the names of all the Bishops in the USA listed in alphabetical order. But I&#039;ll let you do the counting on this occasion.

John FG McMahon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Each country has its Conference of Catholic Bishops. So if you check the website for &#8220;United States Conference of Catholic Bishops&#8221; you will find in the section titled &#8220;Bishops&#8221; the names of all the Bishops in the USA listed in alphabetical order. But I&#8217;ll let you do the counting on this occasion.</p>
<p>John FG McMahon</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Marks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One should not be surprised that church leaders are not interested in standing up and being counted in the war against the unborn as they are not even interested in evangelism.

I called all the church leaders together in the town where I live and presented them with a paper on united evagelistic action. Their response was &quot;go away, we run things around here&quot; after admitting that in the last 12 months all eight churches between them could only muster three conversions. 

I did the same with the leaders of the church in the town where the church I attend is and their response was &quot;We are too busy running our churches. We don&#039;t have time for evangelism.&quot;

When the church becomes a social club which is what it is in most cases, it is not the church. It is an invention of man and run by him for his own self gratification. That is why most churches provide entertainment not discipleship. 

If anyone is putting his faith in man made institutionalised religion they are going to be disappointed as the church is not organisations and buildings and ritual, it is people full of the Holy Spirit doing exploits for God as they did in the Book of Acts.

In most churches God and the Holy Spirit don&#039;t get a look in. There is a quaint little story about a poor woman that turned up at a church and asked to be baptised and become a member. The pastor wasn&#039;t too keen as she did not fit the image of the church so he told her to go away and think about it. She came back again and repeated her request. Again she was turned away and told to reconsider. She came back again and said that she no longer wanted to join the church. The pastor was relieved and asked her why. She said that whilst she was praying about the situation God said to her not to bother as he had been trying for years to get a look in.

Roger Marks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One should not be surprised that church leaders are not interested in standing up and being counted in the war against the unborn as they are not even interested in evangelism.</p>
<p>I called all the church leaders together in the town where I live and presented them with a paper on united evagelistic action. Their response was &#8220;go away, we run things around here&#8221; after admitting that in the last 12 months all eight churches between them could only muster three conversions. </p>
<p>I did the same with the leaders of the church in the town where the church I attend is and their response was &#8220;We are too busy running our churches. We don&#8217;t have time for evangelism.&#8221;</p>
<p>When the church becomes a social club which is what it is in most cases, it is not the church. It is an invention of man and run by him for his own self gratification. That is why most churches provide entertainment not discipleship. </p>
<p>If anyone is putting his faith in man made institutionalised religion they are going to be disappointed as the church is not organisations and buildings and ritual, it is people full of the Holy Spirit doing exploits for God as they did in the Book of Acts.</p>
<p>In most churches God and the Holy Spirit don&#8217;t get a look in. There is a quaint little story about a poor woman that turned up at a church and asked to be baptised and become a member. The pastor wasn&#8217;t too keen as she did not fit the image of the church so he told her to go away and think about it. She came back again and repeated her request. Again she was turned away and told to reconsider. She came back again and said that she no longer wanted to join the church. The pastor was relieved and asked her why. She said that whilst she was praying about the situation God said to her not to bother as he had been trying for years to get a look in.</p>
<p>Roger Marks</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Sarfati</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/04/28/scenes-from-the-abortion-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-136187</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Sarfati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And will Notre Dame cover up all its Christian symbols like its fellow appeasing CINO Georgetown Uni (as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/04/11/is-it-ever-right-to-rebuke-the-cases-of-rick-warren-and-notre-dame/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bill pointed out&lt;/a&gt;)?
Jonathan Sarfati, Brisbane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And will Notre Dame cover up all its Christian symbols like its fellow appeasing CINO Georgetown Uni (as <a href="http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/04/11/is-it-ever-right-to-rebuke-the-cases-of-rick-warren-and-notre-dame/" rel="nofollow">Bill pointed out</a>)?<br />
Jonathan Sarfati, Brisbane</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys

The number of Bishops has now risen to 52: http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/apr/09042807.html 

To give us some perspective on this, does anyone know how many US Catholic Bishops there are in total?

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys</p>
<p>The number of Bishops has now risen to 52: <a href="http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/apr/09042807.html" rel="nofollow">www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/apr/09042807.html</a> </p>
<p>To give us some perspective on this, does anyone know how many US Catholic Bishops there are in total?</p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony McGregor</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2009/04/28/scenes-from-the-abortion-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-136179</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s time that the Church started to agree with God in regard to the plight of the unborn. The absence of Church leaders at the Pro Life rallies last October was pathetic. We have a strategic opportunity to end Brumby&#039;s bloodsoaked reign in 2010 and Churches must be a key factor in this. God bless us all in this conviction.
Anthony McGregor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s time that the Church started to agree with God in regard to the plight of the unborn. The absence of Church leaders at the Pro Life rallies last October was pathetic. We have a strategic opportunity to end Brumby&#8217;s bloodsoaked reign in 2010 and Churches must be a key factor in this. God bless us all in this conviction.<br />
Anthony McGregor</p>
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