Comments on: Thou Shalt Judge http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/ Bill Muehlenberg's commentary on issues of the day... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:50:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Bill Muehlenberg http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-258639 Bill Muehlenberg Wed, 14 Dec 2011 03:23:31 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/#comment-258639 Yes quite right Wayne. Every day we make judgments as we reject some things and accept other things. Woe to us if we do not exercise such discernment and judgment. Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch Yes quite right Wayne. Every day we make judgments as we reject some things and accept other things. Woe to us if we do not exercise such discernment and judgment.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch

]]> By: Wayne C. http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-258604 Wayne C. Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:38:49 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/#comment-258604 One of the most important judgements we make regards choosing a spouse. Believers and non-believers are constantly ruling in or out when evaluating their, hopefully, lifelong partner. Great points, Mr. Muehlenberg! Wayne Cockfield One of the most important judgements we make regards choosing a spouse. Believers and non-believers are constantly ruling in or out when evaluating their, hopefully, lifelong partner. Great points, Mr. Muehlenberg!
Wayne Cockfield

]]> By: Barb http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-241043 Barb Wed, 20 Apr 2011 05:54:57 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/#comment-241043 Thanks again Bill, for highlighting yet another area where Christians have given in to the devil's lies! In both Old an New Testament, there are many scriptures exhorting us to discern, to exercise right judgment and be 'fruit inspectors'. Why are God's people perishing - for lack of knowledge of God's Word and allowing sin into the camp! If Christian's would get back to being biblically discipled under 5-fold ministry, be trained up and equipped to walk in our God given authority, then Churches today would not be weak and powerless and many enjoying friendship with the world!!! Barb Hoc Thanks again Bill, for highlighting yet another area where Christians have given in to the devil’s lies!
In both Old an New Testament, there are many scriptures exhorting us to discern, to exercise right judgment and be ‘fruit inspectors’.
Why are God’s people perishing – for lack of knowledge of God’s Word and allowing sin into the camp!
If Christian’s would get back to being biblically discipled under 5-fold ministry, be trained up and equipped to walk in our God given authority, then Churches today would not be weak and powerless and many enjoying friendship with the world!!!
Barb Hoc

]]> By: J Stuart http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-227817 J Stuart Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:26:58 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/#comment-227817 It's been a long time since you posted this. I did a search on the page including comments, but could've missed it so this might repeat. I just wanted to add a couple other references. 1) I Cor 6:2 & 3 is pretty clear in the Greek, though toned down in the NIV. We are to judge the world.& 'the smallest matters' & angels. Most of chap 5 is a prologue to this, the need to be discerning so we can know what to drop from our lives, what to keep (discerning of course being a form of judging, as in the reference in Acts to the Bereans). Of course, many commentators really disagree with the text here. 2) Mat 18:14-20 is about discerning wrong in the church. I wish more Christians would read Ryan Dobson's book "Be Intolerant." (He's Dr Dobson's son, of Focus on the Family.) J Stuart It’s been a long time since you posted this. I did a search on the page including comments, but could’ve missed it so this might repeat. I just wanted to add a couple other references.
1) I Cor 6:2 & 3 is pretty clear in the Greek, though toned down in the NIV. We are to judge the world.& ‘the smallest matters’ & angels. Most of chap 5 is a prologue to this, the need to be discerning so we can know what to drop from our lives, what to keep (discerning of course being a form of judging, as in the reference in Acts to the Bereans). Of course, many commentators really disagree with the text here.
2) Mat 18:14-20 is about discerning wrong in the church.
I wish more Christians would read Ryan Dobson’s book “Be Intolerant.” (He’s Dr Dobson’s son, of Focus on the Family.)
J Stuart

]]> By: Bobby O'Dell http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-227813 Bobby O'Dell Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:39:43 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/#comment-227813 Excellent Bill! Praise God for such insight!! This is one of my favorite quotes on Judgment: ""Judge not, that you be not judged" is often the wailing cry of false teachers and hardened sinners who misapply the verse to ward off censure for their evil deeds. Do not be intimidated by such people, for Jesus has commanded us to judge with righteous judgment." -- Roy Davison He did not come to bring peace but a BATTLE!! Bobby O'Dell Excellent Bill! Praise God for such insight!! This is one of my favorite quotes on Judgment: “”Judge not, that you be not judged” is often the wailing cry of false teachers and hardened sinners who misapply the verse to ward off censure for their evil deeds. Do not be intimidated by such people, for Jesus has commanded us to judge with righteous judgment.” — Roy Davison He did not come to bring peace but a BATTLE!!
Bobby O’Dell

]]> By: Peter Jackel http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-199503 Peter Jackel Sat, 31 Jul 2010 06:58:26 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/#comment-199503 Brilliant! Finally someone has had a "revelation" about this sacred cow called "judging". I have had so many conversations with otherwise well meaning Christians about the scriptural requirement that God places upon His people to "judge all things". Political correctness and misguided tolerance have served to soften the body to the point that "even the elect" will indeed suffer the deception warned about in scripture. I'm amazed at the foolishness of those who use the line, "touch not the anointed of the Lord" when we are told to beware of "wolves in sheep's clothing". The very reason that these "wolves" look and behave like sheep, is why we must judge their doctrines, lifestyles, values, speech, etc - against the guiding standards espoused for us in scripture. And those practicing sin will end up in hell wondering why Christians never explained that what they were doing was in fact *sin* (idolatry, adultery, fornication, homosexuality, abortion, false gods, etc) - but graciously wrapped them in non-judgmental arms while proudly declaring that acceptance and love has become their highest value. Thank goodness for Jesus and his loving straight talk. We need more of it. Peter Jackel Brilliant! Finally someone has had a “revelation” about this sacred cow called “judging”. I have had so many conversations with otherwise well meaning Christians about the scriptural requirement that God places upon His people to “judge all things”. Political correctness and misguided tolerance have served to soften the body to the point that “even the elect” will indeed suffer the deception warned about in scripture. I’m amazed at the foolishness of those who use the line, “touch not the anointed of the Lord” when we are told to beware of “wolves in sheep’s clothing”. The very reason that these “wolves” look and behave like sheep, is why we must judge their doctrines, lifestyles, values, speech, etc – against the guiding standards espoused for us in scripture. And those practicing sin will end up in hell wondering why Christians never explained that what they were doing was in fact *sin* (idolatry, adultery, fornication, homosexuality, abortion, false gods, etc) – but graciously wrapped them in non-judgmental arms while proudly declaring that acceptance and love has become their highest value.

Thank goodness for Jesus and his loving straight talk. We need more of it.

Peter Jackel

]]> By: Bill Muehlenberg http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-199379 Bill Muehlenberg Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:13:29 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/#comment-199379 Thanks Rolf Yes feel free to make use of this, or anything else on this site. The usual attribution will do: who wrote it and where it was written, a link to it, etc. Blessings, Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch Thanks Rolf

Yes feel free to make use of this, or anything else on this site. The usual attribution will do: who wrote it and where it was written, a link to it, etc.

Blessings,

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch

]]> By: Rolf Lampa http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-199363 Rolf Lampa Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:14:22 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/#comment-199363 Thanks for this informative and, to many, thought provoking article. My short question: Can I translate this text into Swedish and publish it on my website rilnews.org? I'd like more people to get a better grasp on this in Sweden (the ignorance about judgment is not only in the English speaking world...) In Christ, Rolf Lampa, Sweden Thanks for this informative and, to many, thought provoking article.

My short question: Can I translate this text into Swedish and publish it on my website rilnews.org?

I’d like more people to get a better grasp on this in Sweden (the ignorance about judgment is not only in the English speaking world…)

In Christ,
Rolf Lampa, Sweden

]]> By: Garth http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-199326 Garth Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:52:52 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/#comment-199326 This must head up the list of "Common Misconceptions among Christians". I love what C.S. Lewis had to say about it in the Screwtape Letters - that the devil has systematically nullified the effectiveness of Christians by promoting "Judge not...", or you have a "judgemental attitude", yet we are called to "abhor what is evil" (Rom 12:9) which is a bit hard if we don't judge evil. Ironically, the majority of scriptures about judging others seems to be in context of judging our brethren in Christ - something which the western church sadly lacks the guts to do, happy to allow (& even promote) sins of pride, gluttony, sexual immorality, backbiting/gossip, etc. etc. to continue to flourish in their midst. Garth Penglase This must head up the list of “Common Misconceptions among Christians”.

I love what C.S. Lewis had to say about it in the Screwtape Letters – that the devil has systematically nullified the effectiveness of Christians by promoting “Judge not…”, or you have a “judgemental attitude”, yet we are called to “abhor what is evil” (Rom 12:9) which is a bit hard if we don’t judge evil. Ironically, the majority of scriptures about judging others seems to be in context of judging our brethren in Christ – something which the western church sadly lacks the guts to do, happy to allow (& even promote) sins of pride, gluttony, sexual immorality, backbiting/gossip, etc. etc. to continue to flourish in their midst.

Garth Penglase

]]> By: Jessica http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/comment-page-1/#comment-155429 Jessica Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:50:09 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/10/08/thou-shalt-judge/#comment-155429 Thanks Bill, I really appreciate the way you've thrashed the issue out! May the Lord continue to bless you and your family for your faithfulness to Him. Jessica Dornan Thanks Bill, I really appreciate the way you’ve thrashed the issue out! May the Lord continue to bless you and your family for your faithfulness to Him.
Jessica Dornan

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