Comments on: Muslim Polygamy in Australia

By: Jean McGregor

Jean McGregor — Fri, 15 May 2009 07:39:16 +0000

One of my daughters works in a retail store. She has told me about several Muslim women, all with pension cards, who go into the store at different times with the same man, who they all refer to as their ‘husband’.
I don’t know how the government could tackle this problem, because these women must obviously have lied in order to be granted a pension.
Jean McGregor

By: Bill Muehlenberg

Bill Muehlenberg — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:40:15 +0000

Well done Duane.
I am glad you did well.
Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch

By: duane

duane — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:31:54 +0000

Dear Bill, great article once again. I used many of these points in an english oral and I got an A. What I don’t understand is that politicians can even think about legalising this.
Duane Zieglar

By: Ewan

Ewan — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:30:15 +0000

Andrew Bolt now has a full column length article on the subject. He also makes the connection between same-sex marriage and polygamy. Ewan McDonald.

By: Ray Robinson

Ray Robinson — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:51:50 +0000

I support the main thesis that emanates from the authors listed above.

However it appears to me that we hide behind blog sites and church doors that open a few hours on Sunday.

Where was the church militant in New South Wales when the Anti Discrimination laws were changed yet again, to favour a few lesbians, so as to deny ‘their’ child his / her human right of knowing the father. Similar law changes are occurring across Australia and without a majority mandate.

Stop debating among ourselves and go public, go in force and raise our voices, finances and faith and support the Australian Christian Lobby, the Fatherhood Foundation, Christian Democratic Party and other such struggling groups.

Ray Robinson

By: siti khatijah

siti khatijah — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:26:08 +0000

I just need to clarify for Murray that in the Sufi Islamic world we have accomplished people translating arranging and teaching the teachings of our sufi masters, such as Ibn Arabi to name a few and these accomplished people are non moslems such as James Morris, William Chittick and the great Professor Toshihiko Izutsu. Only the majority that are ego motivated will be angered by your input but we know that you have every right to comment on the world you live in as we do.
Siti Khatijah

By: Peter Rice

Peter Rice — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:39:40 +0000

In the USA the Mormon Church (esp in Utah) until relatively recent times, practiced polygamy and were warned by the Federal Government to cease the practice as it was contrary to Federal law. In the end the the leaders of the church were threatened with the withdrawal of all Federal grant payments (which are considerable in the US). Eventally, the Utah committee of government agreed and outlawed the practice. (Although I believe there are still a few polygamous families in Utah). Perhaps our Federal Government should consider imposing the same sanctions if the (alleged) practice in the Muslim community here does not cease? Our situation is quite clear – polygamy is not legal according to the Australian Marriage Act and I believe bigamy is still a crime in this country. Our social conditions are very important and I agree with those who say – any newcomer to this country who does not wish to abide by our laws, particulatly those on marriage, should consider returning to a country where they can practice what they want. This issue is another example of a minority group attempting to change the rules for the majority and our government should view it with suspicion!
Peter Rice

By: david skinner

david skinner — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 07:19:13 +0000

Robert Phillips you say you wonder how long it will take secular Australia to “wake up” to the fact that modern western politically correct secular multiculturalism is no defence against the oncoming threat of Islam. My belief is that all western European nations are indeed awake to the threat; one only has to read the daily blog sites in order to sense either the angst – or the apathy of those who just want to stick their heads in the sand.

I may be wrong but I believe it is Darwinian thinking, that is just as deterministic as Islam, that is paralysing all thought. Islam and Darwinism have this in common: the inability of man to exercise the authority that God gave him in the garden and of Eden, which he lost, but which Jesus Christ then gave back to him with the words, “You can ask for anything in my name, and I will do it, so that the Son can bring glory to the Father. Yes, ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it!” Jn14:13-14.

Like animals dazzled and caught in a spotlight our nations are blinded as to which way to turn. The description that Winston Churchill gave to Islam in 1899 can equally be applied to any western state ruled by the Commission for Human Rights and Equality:

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism (evolutionary humanism) lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy (militant and politically correct hatred) which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries…”

Michael Nazir, the Pakistani Bishop of Rochester, UK talks about a failure of nerve on the part of Christians to get out their message. This same nerve, or moral courage, enabled our ancestors to crawl out of barbarism 2000 years ago to achieve all that was good about western civilisation – from its scientific and artistic achievements to its social reforms and national institutions. We are merely squandering this inheritance.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2042169/Bishop-Michael-Nazir-Ali-Radical-Islam-is-filling-void-left-by-collapse-of-Christianity-in-UK.html
notworthyofthename.blogspot.com/

Let us pray that we, rank and file Christians, do not also become paralysed and fatalistic but believe in a mighty God who has a plan and purpose and who has promised never to leave or forsake us. Thank you, Robert Phillips for this encouragement.

David Skinner, UK

By: siti khatijah

siti khatijah — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 05:44:12 +0000

Thank you Bill and Murray. I knew that if I wrote a whole lot of issues would come of this. However I agree with you Bill that they justify from the Qur’an what they believe is correct interpretation. As for the Prophet’s conduct there are debates on how old these girls were when he married them and circumstances of marriage was of a different time. However I realise saying this that you can quote the qur’anic verses to show your arguments as can I. Mr Murray you have the freedom to read and interprete the qur’an as you deem fit. I am not going to stop or hang you for it. It is an open Book for everyone to interpret in accordance with their understanding and therein lies the difficulty (or firmness of purpose) with The Qur’an. I do believe “when in Rome….’ as that also has been taught in the qur’an. My legacy is now that I have not only to refute and dispprove the practices (ego motivated) of the majority Islamic world but also to show my fellow human beings (non moslems) that there is an underlying hidden meaning of the qur’an that has been long forgotten and a victim of false doctrines and false ancestral worship.
Siti Khatijah

By: MurrayA

MurrayA — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 05:17:22 +0000

Siti,
You allege that Bill’s – and others’ – interpretation of the Qur’an is mistaken.
I have heard this reply so often I have it coming out of my ears. The reality is that for Muslims no non-Muslim can interpret, or even cite, the Qur’an. Any attempt to do so is by definition inaccurate.
Hence when one tries to do so he is by definition either a knave or a fool: a knave who deliberately distorts the said book; or a fool in that he cannot properly understand it.
So one cannot win! If I as a non-Muslim cite or attempt to interpret the Qur’an I am ruled out of court before I start. One can see this principle operating time and again: someone like Robert Spencer, or Daniel Pipes, or Patrick Sookhdeo, who are experts in Islamic studies, are dismissed by Muslims as hate-mongers, knaves, fools, shysters, and/or a host of other derogatory epithets.

Please, please, come up with something original! Not that tired old line!

Murray Adamthwaite