Comments on: Our Campus Censors

By: Stephen

Stephen — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:14:22 +0000

The “Fresh” Student Union at UQ obviously thinks that a very un-’fresh’ legislation brought in by a minority of students 15-odd years ago is good enough excuse to block women of their right to know the facts about abortion. This legislation approves of giving women a “genuine choice”, but I don’t see how gagging half the side of the issue is offering them a genuine choice!

This attack on free speech, women and unborn children, and the subsequent threat of disaffiliation by the President himself is a case of fascism in my own country! Unbelievable.

Stephen Purcell

By: Peter Rice

Peter Rice — Sun, 25 May 2008 21:18:51 +0000

My university experience was in SA during the early 1960′s and I belonged to the Student’s Union. In those days that body looked after the well-being of students as students, not their social values or morality. My daughter has just finished eight years as a uni student and there is little doubt her life view has changed leaving her in conflict with the outside world she now has to cope with as a clinical psychologist. I only hope she survives.
Peter Rice

By: Greg Brien

Greg Brien — Sat, 24 May 2008 10:47:49 +0000

Let Steve Angelino have no doubts about the left in the Liberal Party. They are there and in NSW are called the Group.
Greg Brien

By: Peter Colsell

Peter Colsell — Thu, 22 May 2008 23:45:40 +0000

One salient point must be highlighted here when commenting on the Student Union’s ban on this poster. It was on or outside Student Union premises. Displaying it there requires the permission of the Union. Perhaps they should have investigated this first before going ahead. A lot of groups within universities act independently without consulation. Perhaps the particular action in this case was deliberately provocative and has elicited the dismay and support it was designed to engage. If that is the case then legitimate Christian causes have been meted a disservice that only results in future protestations being categorised with these leftist ‘styled’ groups who are more activist than led by God. Anything we do that it not governed by God’s leading is chaff.

That said if the group had also encountered the same ideologically driven opposition from the governing university boards/councils over displaying the posters on, say public noticeboards or at registration, then there is an even better case for discrimination and censorship.

The Enemy likes to infiltrate and destablise from within. Beware the angel of light.

Post script:

Although the student population is 30,000 once you have taken away all those who are not able to vote as they are off campus at the time the elections are made.

Usually elections are during the day (excluding all part-time students) and then at a location where the demographics favour the outcome. Thus the votes maybe representative of the intentions of the Student Union leftist faction.

Peter Colsell

By: Graeme Cumming

Graeme Cumming — Thu, 22 May 2008 13:46:59 +0000

I too would be interested in knowing whether any Christian group on campus has mounted any challenge to the Union’s dictates. I hated Compulsory Student Unionism when I was at UQ and hate it now.
Graeme Cumming

By: david skinner

david skinner — Thu, 22 May 2008 08:31:00 +0000

The gravest danger is the way the law no longer refers to reason or common sense. As Schaeffer suggested somewhere we will all have to be linked up to a central computer that gives us for any second either what the fluctuating consenus of opinion is or simply what a tyrant thinks at that moment. I think it will be the latter.
David Skinner, UK

By: Fiona Caldwell Clifton QLD

Fiona Caldwell Clifton QLD — Thu, 22 May 2008 06:53:45 +0000

Hi Bill,

I am a University student as well. I am currently studying through Murdoch University WA. I have been studying Security and Terrorism. I was failed on my first essay because I used my brain and found other information to support my arguments not just the text books that we have.

I do agree that we are no longer allowed to think for our selves but are told what we are to think. This is not higher education. We go to these universities to learn and to use our brain and discuss issues. These universities are being paid to teach us but from the experience that I have had so far they cannot be bothered to do so.

I do not see how we are to learn as a student if we are no longer allowed to think?

Fiona Caldwell, Clifton, QLD

By: Garth

Garth — Thu, 22 May 2008 02:41:25 +0000

I find it one of life’s great ironies that Christians are berated for having a one-eyed view of things, and yet Christians stand for, and often give their lives for freedom of speech, the right to discuss and challenge ideas. While I may not agree with the Jehovah’s Witnesses from a doctrinal viewpoint I have to admire that their fortitude and perserverance in the US established and retained freedoms for all Americans, and were one of the first groups to openly stand against Nazi tyranny. I am sure Bill and others could give many examples (Wilberforce and the abolition of slavery etc.) of Christians standing up against one-eyed and enslaving ideologies for the betterment of mankind.

However, and this is where the irony comes in, so many of those who fight against Christians such as homosexual lobbyists, feminists, atheists, muslims [the list is long] openly state that if they could they would silence Christians. In fact how often have we heard such groups state that it is their *right* to be heard and allowed to air, teach, yes even preach their views, and yet when they gain the power to limit, block or silence any alternative message they use it with a vengence.

Garth Penglase

By: Michael Mifsud

Michael Mifsud — Thu, 22 May 2008 00:01:13 +0000

Can not the students appeal to the Dean or actual administration? Does the Student Union have this type of power? Doesn’t this violate some kind of “free speech” law? Reminds me of this vandalism in the USA by student union rep (www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5NeLyMZUYM ). Protest was legally sanctioned and had previously been vandalized the night before. Though I hate to use a reducto ad hitlerium argument but it is certainly very totalitarian. People have been brainwashed pretty effectively over the last decades.

David G,
I couldn’t agree more. The insanity of a society and world which prefers extinction to stopping murder is crazy. The USSR had MORE abortions than births last year! Politicians are doing their best to promote more children with one hand but with the other condoning abortion and the destruction of the family. Irony?

Ban abortions and you solve your population crisis in one fell swoop. Politically Correct Death quotes a study which shows the economic loss of each aborted baby. I can’t remember the exact figures off the top of my head by each male net contribution to the US economy (so minus all costs) over his lifetime was 1.1 million dollars while a female was $900k. Not to mention the other benefits of having all those children around today as adults raising their own families and such.

Fifty percent of the peers of the current generation of children at high school today didn’t make it out of the womb…

Michael Mifsud

By: Dee Graf

Dee Graf — Wed, 21 May 2008 21:12:46 +0000

The premise they use to justify this anti-intellectual silencing of debate is fatally flawed as you point out here, Bill. But somehow I don’t think they’re listening to our criticism here if they’re trying to silence it there.
Abortion is perhaps the greatest evil of our time. The bill David Skinner mentions above being pushed through in the U.K. right now was, in the Guardian, described as ‘rejecting the need for father’. I wonder if the implication is, as well, rejecting the need for Father (God). The horrors going on in the laboratories of the west are truly sickening. It’s like some grotesque B-grade movie come true. And the perpetrators of this crime are bringing a curse down upon the head of our civilization. God help us.
Dee Graf