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		<title>By: Olive Oliverio</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/10/deconstructing-the-bible-again/comment-page-1/#comment-92170</link>
		<dc:creator>Olive Oliverio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Robert,

I do apologise if my comment has hurt you. I know it was not our main agenda to attack you as such, but simply to make a point. It does make me sad to know it made you very unhappy. But please see it from our point of view too.  

Yes, we are all not perfect and the God we serve is a forgiving God. There is SO much joy that comes from the mercy of God.  His mercy is with us everyday...and boy don&#039;t I know it!  But we should not take the responsibility and the honour to deliver truth lightly.

I hope by now you have found some peace. With love

Olive Oliverio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Robert,</p>
<p>I do apologise if my comment has hurt you. I know it was not our main agenda to attack you as such, but simply to make a point. It does make me sad to know it made you very unhappy. But please see it from our point of view too.  </p>
<p>Yes, we are all not perfect and the God we serve is a forgiving God. There is SO much joy that comes from the mercy of God.  His mercy is with us everyday&#8230;and boy don&#8217;t I know it!  But we should not take the responsibility and the honour to deliver truth lightly.</p>
<p>I hope by now you have found some peace. With love</p>
<p>Olive Oliverio</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer Gear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spencer Gear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 21:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

We have Anglican vicars in Australia who are modernist, postmodernist, liberal or evangelical.  On which side of the theological spectrum do you place yourself?

The Anglican church down the road from where I live has a well lit sign out front.  This week&#039;s message is, &quot;Jesus is our Prozac.&quot;

Sincerely, Spencer Gear, Hervey Bay, Qld.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>We have Anglican vicars in Australia who are modernist, postmodernist, liberal or evangelical.  On which side of the theological spectrum do you place yourself?</p>
<p>The Anglican church down the road from where I live has a well lit sign out front.  This week&#8217;s message is, &#8220;Jesus is our Prozac.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sincerely, Spencer Gear, Hervey Bay, Qld.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/10/deconstructing-the-bible-again/comment-page-1/#comment-77674</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 11:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Robert

Thanks you for taking the time to write. It is of course not my intention to unnecessarily offend or hurt another believer. I apologise if I have. In fact my intention is the same as yours: “trying, as best I can, to follow a path that I believe - in faith, hope and love - that God has called me to take.”

I too am aware of how journalists can distort things. It had happened to me on numerous occasions. And of course there was no book to read when my piece was written. I am not even sure if it is available here in Australia. If you thought it worthwhile, you might send me a copy, and I can see how things square with the press accounts.

But that is the real question here. Are you saying that the press accounts are completely wrong, and that all of the quotes attributed to you are not at all accurate? If that is the case, I will of course publically apologise at once. But you have not clearly stated that this is the case in your comment. Indeed, you have not denied any of it thus far.

So let me, in all due respect, put it to you most candidly: Does your book make Eve out to be some sort of sex-obsessed man-eater? Does it portray Goliath as a celebrity binge drinker? Do your stories suggest that Noah’s wife wants to kill him? 

And did you in fact make this statement?: “I wanted to write a book that tells the most important Bible stories in a way that relishes them rather than tries to make any particular religious point. After all, who knows what the point is?”

Again with all due respect, can I suggest that if you did state this, then it is a most curious thing indeed for a vicar – or any shepherd of Christ’s flock - to say. I would have thought that it is your job to know – as much as possible - what the Word of God is teaching, and not treat it like some grist for a deconstructionist mill.

The biblical stories are in fact seeking to make a particular religious - indeed a particular theological - point. God is expressing real truths through the narratives found in His Word. I would have thought that all Bible-believing Christians understood this.

If I had penned a book for public consumption, I would expect other believers to assess it from a biblical point of view, and share their concerns if they had reservations about what effect my message was having on the public receiving it. Indeed, I would take it that they have an obligation as believers to admonish when necessary, even as we are instructed in Scripture.

I did begin my article by stating that the best of intentions may well have gone into this. I still say that. But good intentions by themselves are not our measuring stick. Being true to Scripture and the message of the Gospel is what we should be seeking for. Should we not follow the biblical command to test all things, and make sure that what we are teaching in fact lines up with sound doctrine?

Again, if none of the things said about you and the book by the press are true, I apologise in advance, and ask for your forgiveness. But if they are true, or are even mostly true, then my concerns remain, and I question how helpful your book will be in an age where truth is already under attack, and the Bible is seen as just another set of stories, no better or no worse, no more true or no more false, than the suras of the Koran, the plays of Shakespeare, or the fables of Aesop.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Robert</p>
<p>Thanks you for taking the time to write. It is of course not my intention to unnecessarily offend or hurt another believer. I apologise if I have. In fact my intention is the same as yours: “trying, as best I can, to follow a path that I believe &#8211; in faith, hope and love &#8211; that God has called me to take.”</p>
<p>I too am aware of how journalists can distort things. It had happened to me on numerous occasions. And of course there was no book to read when my piece was written. I am not even sure if it is available here in Australia. If you thought it worthwhile, you might send me a copy, and I can see how things square with the press accounts.</p>
<p>But that is the real question here. Are you saying that the press accounts are completely wrong, and that all of the quotes attributed to you are not at all accurate? If that is the case, I will of course publically apologise at once. But you have not clearly stated that this is the case in your comment. Indeed, you have not denied any of it thus far.</p>
<p>So let me, in all due respect, put it to you most candidly: Does your book make Eve out to be some sort of sex-obsessed man-eater? Does it portray Goliath as a celebrity binge drinker? Do your stories suggest that Noah’s wife wants to kill him? </p>
<p>And did you in fact make this statement?: “I wanted to write a book that tells the most important Bible stories in a way that relishes them rather than tries to make any particular religious point. After all, who knows what the point is?”</p>
<p>Again with all due respect, can I suggest that if you did state this, then it is a most curious thing indeed for a vicar – or any shepherd of Christ’s flock &#8211; to say. I would have thought that it is your job to know – as much as possible &#8211; what the Word of God is teaching, and not treat it like some grist for a deconstructionist mill.</p>
<p>The biblical stories are in fact seeking to make a particular religious &#8211; indeed a particular theological &#8211; point. God is expressing real truths through the narratives found in His Word. I would have thought that all Bible-believing Christians understood this.</p>
<p>If I had penned a book for public consumption, I would expect other believers to assess it from a biblical point of view, and share their concerns if they had reservations about what effect my message was having on the public receiving it. Indeed, I would take it that they have an obligation as believers to admonish when necessary, even as we are instructed in Scripture.</p>
<p>I did begin my article by stating that the best of intentions may well have gone into this. I still say that. But good intentions by themselves are not our measuring stick. Being true to Scripture and the message of the Gospel is what we should be seeking for. Should we not follow the biblical command to test all things, and make sure that what we are teaching in fact lines up with sound doctrine?</p>
<p>Again, if none of the things said about you and the book by the press are true, I apologise in advance, and ask for your forgiveness. But if they are true, or are even mostly true, then my concerns remain, and I question how helpful your book will be in an age where truth is already under attack, and the Bible is seen as just another set of stories, no better or no worse, no more true or no more false, than the suras of the Koran, the plays of Shakespeare, or the fables of Aesop.</p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 10:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an unhappy experience to read all that you have written about me. How sad it is that not one of you has expressed the possibility that I might be trying, as best I can, to follow a path that I believe - in faith, hope and love - that God has called me to take. And what a shame that in all the condemnation (and God knows there is plenty in my life that is deserving of it) there is not mention of our Lord&#039;s forgiving love.
Whether or not my book glorifies the Word of God, you will not know unless you read it. You may or may not be reassured to know that the Biblical text for each story is also printed so that readers can see for themselves how I have retold the stories.
All that has been written in this blog is based on a article from one of England&#039;s sex-obsessed tabloid newspapers. 
I&#039;m quite sure, that if you apply your literary skills to that fact, you will remember that tabloid journalism is not one of the world&#039;s most reliable sources of information, particularly when applied to matters of faith.
As a fellow Christian, I ask for your love and your graciousness. How would it be if you were having this conversation together in a room and then realised that I was in the room with you?
I leave your room with a very sad heart. I have not found the love of God here. I&#039;m sorry about that.
Robert Harrison</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an unhappy experience to read all that you have written about me. How sad it is that not one of you has expressed the possibility that I might be trying, as best I can, to follow a path that I believe &#8211; in faith, hope and love &#8211; that God has called me to take. And what a shame that in all the condemnation (and God knows there is plenty in my life that is deserving of it) there is not mention of our Lord&#8217;s forgiving love.<br />
Whether or not my book glorifies the Word of God, you will not know unless you read it. You may or may not be reassured to know that the Biblical text for each story is also printed so that readers can see for themselves how I have retold the stories.<br />
All that has been written in this blog is based on a article from one of England&#8217;s sex-obsessed tabloid newspapers.<br />
I&#8217;m quite sure, that if you apply your literary skills to that fact, you will remember that tabloid journalism is not one of the world&#8217;s most reliable sources of information, particularly when applied to matters of faith.<br />
As a fellow Christian, I ask for your love and your graciousness. How would it be if you were having this conversation together in a room and then realised that I was in the room with you?<br />
I leave your room with a very sad heart. I have not found the love of God here. I&#8217;m sorry about that.<br />
Robert Harrison</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Lyte</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/10/deconstructing-the-bible-again/comment-page-1/#comment-76542</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Lyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 06:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The concerning thing about deconstructionist is its effect on people. Many people have every belief of theirs attacked, and are then fed a new idea; a new philosophy - most commonly the naturalistic world view. This force should rightfully be met by Christians, and humbly challenged as people ask questions relating to your belief.
Jesse Lyte</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concerning thing about deconstructionist is its effect on people. Many people have every belief of theirs attacked, and are then fed a new idea; a new philosophy &#8211; most commonly the naturalistic world view. This force should rightfully be met by Christians, and humbly challenged as people ask questions relating to your belief.<br />
Jesse Lyte</p>
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		<title>By: Olive Pearl Oliverio</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/10/deconstructing-the-bible-again/comment-page-1/#comment-76530</link>
		<dc:creator>Olive Pearl Oliverio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 04:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though the vicar may have “good intentions” in writing his book, he really needs to re-evaluate his faith.  AS a vicar, you would hope that he would have a clear understanding of God’s divine word.  He has distorted God’s message for example, by associating Eve with being a “sex-obsessed man-eater”.  How is that biblical??

Yes there are many cultures that need to know God’s message, BUT there are much more productive ways to contextualize these historic stories.  It seems his motives are inwardly focused and only edifying his “creativeness” not giving God the praise and glory he deserves.

Olive Oliverio, Vicco</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though the vicar may have “good intentions” in writing his book, he really needs to re-evaluate his faith.  AS a vicar, you would hope that he would have a clear understanding of God’s divine word.  He has distorted God’s message for example, by associating Eve with being a “sex-obsessed man-eater”.  How is that biblical??</p>
<p>Yes there are many cultures that need to know God’s message, BUT there are much more productive ways to contextualize these historic stories.  It seems his motives are inwardly focused and only edifying his “creativeness” not giving God the praise and glory he deserves.</p>
<p>Olive Oliverio, Vicco</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Kerr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica Kerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 01:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point this UK vicar is seemingly trying to make is that he wants to reach out to todays modern generation and give them the bible in a way that they can understand it. The negative however, is that he is changing the powerful meanings of these stories, and claiming that no one can truly know what the point of these stories are! I have to ask then, what his motivation is...Why is this vicar trying to get the bible out to todays generation, if he believes that there is in fact no real point to any of these powerful historical stories? What point is he really trying to make? Is it just so he can get his name published? Because his purpose is obviously not to bring people to the one true God, the God of the Bible. 

Jessica Kerr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point this UK vicar is seemingly trying to make is that he wants to reach out to todays modern generation and give them the bible in a way that they can understand it. The negative however, is that he is changing the powerful meanings of these stories, and claiming that no one can truly know what the point of these stories are! I have to ask then, what his motivation is&#8230;Why is this vicar trying to get the bible out to todays generation, if he believes that there is in fact no real point to any of these powerful historical stories? What point is he really trying to make? Is it just so he can get his name published? Because his purpose is obviously not to bring people to the one true God, the God of the Bible. </p>
<p>Jessica Kerr</p>
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		<title>By: Joanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just can&#039;t believe that a vicar of all people thinks that this is a good idea and that it will make a good difference. These stories from the Bible are not just stories they are historical facts.
Which also teach as great things about good values and about God character and His deep love for you. And can be used to teach children some of the basic foundations of Christianity.
Joanna Lancaster</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can&#8217;t believe that a vicar of all people thinks that this is a good idea and that it will make a good difference. These stories from the Bible are not just stories they are historical facts.<br />
Which also teach as great things about good values and about God character and His deep love for you. And can be used to teach children some of the basic foundations of Christianity.<br />
Joanna Lancaster</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Law</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/10/deconstructing-the-bible-again/comment-page-1/#comment-76397</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 05:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems Mel Davies has really hit the nail on the head. 
What really is Harrison’s motives?
Well maybe I could run with some random thought, or belief that by publishing this book he is aiming to take over the world? What? I’m in titled to my own opinion, and this is my thought on the matter, after all, no one really knows the original intent of Harrison.
Is this not a wise way to come to a conclusion? Ok then, I will consider the facts instead.
1. Harrison is a Vicar. Yes a Vicar, well then surely this is the title of a man who believes in God and believes Jesus is Lord. Indeed, an Anglican vicar would be a follower of Jesus’ teachings? And Jesus, being the Word become flesh, surely he believes in all the Bible’s teachings. And when the Bible speaks about the writings all being inspired, and not to be changed, any good vicar, or any follower of Christ would surely respect and accept this? Woops my mistake I guess not
2. “After all, who knows what the point is?” well there is our evidence of Harrison’s beliefs? Well it seems dear Harrison is sounding like he’s loosing faith in God’s inspired, powerful teachings. He may want to take the time to read Rev 22:18-19 where it makes clear that God’s word is inspired and to “add to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life.”

Harrison might want to reconsider if he is a follower of God and what the Bible teaches. Because right now it seems his motive might just be money making. But hey, I don’t know what you’re going to take away from this blog, because you might not know my original intent, and you might just read what I’m writing in your own perspective. Oh well.

Matthew Law</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems Mel Davies has really hit the nail on the head.<br />
What really is Harrison’s motives?<br />
Well maybe I could run with some random thought, or belief that by publishing this book he is aiming to take over the world? What? I’m in titled to my own opinion, and this is my thought on the matter, after all, no one really knows the original intent of Harrison.<br />
Is this not a wise way to come to a conclusion? Ok then, I will consider the facts instead.<br />
1. Harrison is a Vicar. Yes a Vicar, well then surely this is the title of a man who believes in God and believes Jesus is Lord. Indeed, an Anglican vicar would be a follower of Jesus’ teachings? And Jesus, being the Word become flesh, surely he believes in all the Bible’s teachings. And when the Bible speaks about the writings all being inspired, and not to be changed, any good vicar, or any follower of Christ would surely respect and accept this? Woops my mistake I guess not<br />
2. “After all, who knows what the point is?” well there is our evidence of Harrison’s beliefs? Well it seems dear Harrison is sounding like he’s loosing faith in God’s inspired, powerful teachings. He may want to take the time to read Rev 22:18-19 where it makes clear that God’s word is inspired and to “add to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life.”</p>
<p>Harrison might want to reconsider if he is a follower of God and what the Bible teaches. Because right now it seems his motive might just be money making. But hey, I don’t know what you’re going to take away from this blog, because you might not know my original intent, and you might just read what I’m writing in your own perspective. Oh well.</p>
<p>Matthew Law</p>
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		<title>By: Mel Davies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 00:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is deeply concerning when a vicar writes a &#039;contemporary&#039; book about something he clear states has no point. My question is then why publish such rubbish and in the process devalue the real authority that is contained in those Bible stories. Harrison is a classic example of what not to do with God&#039;s Word! Harrison&#039;s intentions were not to write a book &#039;that tells the most important Bible stories&#039; but to make a financial profit from his deconstructionalist views. If he was a true man of God he would know the severity of taking God&#039;s Word out of context and he would also understand that every single page of the Bible was written with a clear intended meaning behind it. In my opinion Harrison&#039;s book will only ever be worthy of being used to start a fire on a cold winters night!
Mel Davies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is deeply concerning when a vicar writes a &#8216;contemporary&#8217; book about something he clear states has no point. My question is then why publish such rubbish and in the process devalue the real authority that is contained in those Bible stories. Harrison is a classic example of what not to do with God&#8217;s Word! Harrison&#8217;s intentions were not to write a book &#8216;that tells the most important Bible stories&#8217; but to make a financial profit from his deconstructionalist views. If he was a true man of God he would know the severity of taking God&#8217;s Word out of context and he would also understand that every single page of the Bible was written with a clear intended meaning behind it. In my opinion Harrison&#8217;s book will only ever be worthy of being used to start a fire on a cold winters night!<br />
Mel Davies</p>
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