Comments on: Islam and Christianity: Looking at the Numbers http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/ Bill Muehlenberg's commentary on issues of the day... Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:22:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: A.Gabriel http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-122052 A.Gabriel Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:55:21 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/#comment-122052 I wish I could be a bit more academic in my words, trying to describe my personal life experience into islamic world and muslim society... Unfortunately my english is poorer than a fifth grade and so, I will just let all of you know that leaving islam was, is, the greatest moral achievement of my humble being and doing this i had touch the HOPE, the true one. The hardship of my "apostate" is into the true meaning of Christianity, which is forgiveness... even to what only satan would love. Peace above all, and HOPE. A Gabriel I wish I could be a bit more academic in my words, trying to describe my personal life experience into islamic world and muslim society… Unfortunately my english is poorer than a fifth grade and so, I will just let all of you know that leaving islam was, is, the greatest moral achievement of my humble being and doing this i had touch the HOPE, the true one. The hardship of my “apostate” is into the true meaning of Christianity, which is forgiveness… even to what only satan would love. Peace above all, and HOPE.
A Gabriel

]]> By: joshua http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-91905 joshua Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:12:11 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/#comment-91905 Very good article. All the truth is shown. I'm impressed by this article, being a follower of JESUS CHRIST in Pakistan. I must tell you guys many conversions are being done here but in secret. Keep up the good work Bill. GOD bless you. Joshua Kami Very good article. All the truth is shown. I’m impressed by this article, being a follower of JESUS CHRIST in Pakistan. I must tell you guys many conversions are being done here but in secret. Keep up the good work Bill. GOD bless you.
Joshua Kami

]]> By: Pat McCarthy http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-83254 Pat McCarthy Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:27:46 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/#comment-83254 An earlier comment stated, "as a matter of fact Muslims believe that Jesus will return." Doesn't Islam preach that the Jesus of the Qu'ran will assist Al-Mahdi in killing infidels during the end times? This is not the Jesus Christians know. Allah is perceived by his followers to be a God who is too superior to his people to have a personal relationship with them. The God of the Bible is a God who created his people so that he could love them and share his heaven with them. The God of the Qu'ran seems to use fear as the way to gain and keep followers, and promotes deceit and even killing in his name. These are all qualities of the Bible's Satan as well as historical tyrants such as Hitler. There is some great research on the stunning parallels between the Bible's prophesies about the anti-Christ and the Islamic prophesies about Al-Mahdi. It's impossible to ignore the parallels between the Qu'ran’s end time prophesies and the Bible's end time prophesies. I don’t say these things to offend anyone, but in hopes that people will research some of these matters for their own sakes so they can decide what kind of God they want to live with eternally. Tough times are upon us and ignorance and blind following are tools of evildoers. Christians should continue to spread the good news about Christ. Many of us may die in his name, but true followers and believers will never kill in his name. As a result we will spend life eternally in his kingdom of peace. These are the times to save as many people as possible by spreading God's Word and teaching about his love for ALL of us. This article is great news. Pat McCarthy An earlier comment stated, “as a matter of fact Muslims believe that Jesus will return.” Doesn’t Islam preach that the Jesus of the Qu’ran will assist Al-Mahdi in killing infidels during the end times? This is not the Jesus Christians know. Allah is perceived by his followers to be a God who is too superior to his people to have a personal relationship with them. The God of the Bible is a God who created his people so that he could love them and share his heaven with them. The God of the Qu’ran seems to use fear as the way to gain and keep followers, and promotes deceit and even killing in his name. These are all qualities of the Bible’s Satan as well as historical tyrants such as Hitler. There is some great research on the stunning parallels between the Bible’s prophesies about the anti-Christ and the Islamic prophesies about Al-Mahdi. It’s impossible to ignore the parallels between the Qu’ran’s end time prophesies and the Bible’s end time prophesies. I don’t say these things to offend anyone, but in hopes that people will research some of these matters for their own sakes so they can decide what kind of God they want to live with eternally. Tough times are upon us and ignorance and blind following are tools of evildoers. Christians should continue to spread the good news about Christ. Many of us may die in his name, but true followers and believers will never kill in his name. As a result we will spend life eternally in his kingdom of peace. These are the times to save as many people as possible by spreading God’s Word and teaching about his love for ALL of us. This article is great news.
Pat McCarthy

]]> By: Angela McAdam http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-70695 Angela McAdam Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:25:25 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/#comment-70695 Hi Bill, I have just logged on to your website,and noticed the dialogue between muslim and christian men. I truly know what it is like to grow up believing in a God of whom I was so scared of offending in a religion of fear, (not muslim). THEN, one day I cried out to God even saying, I didnt know if I believed in Him anymore, I then felt the most loving presence surround me and I knew He was real. Then I found out about Jesus and His amazing Love, and this Great love I know has never left me. Father Son and Holy Spirit have been my companions for 42 yrs now, and I have only just begun to know Them. They are so kind and good and faithful, acsessable 24/7,What a privalege... Angela McAdam Hi Bill, I have just logged on to your website,and noticed the dialogue between muslim and christian men.
I truly know what it is like to grow up believing in a God of whom I was so scared of offending in a religion of fear, (not muslim). THEN, one day I cried out to God even saying, I didnt know if I believed in Him anymore, I then felt the most loving presence surround me and I knew He was real. Then I found out about Jesus and His amazing Love, and this Great love I know has never left me.
Father Son and Holy Spirit have been my companions for 42 yrs now, and I have only just begun to know Them. They are so kind and good and faithful, acsessable 24/7,What a privalege…
Angela McAdam

]]> By: Babatundesunday Teniola http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-70503 Babatundesunday Teniola Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:14:52 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/#comment-70503 Thanks Mohammed, For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Therefore ask yourself if you do not give the glory due to His name what will you gain? For man is destined to die once, after that to face judgement. I beseech you to take heed into what has been said unto you, ought to know that man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith of Jesus Christ. What does it mean to insult the spirit of grace and to trample the Son of God? For it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God! Babatundesunday Teniola Thanks Mohammed,

For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Therefore ask yourself if you do not give the glory due to His name what will you gain? For man is destined to die once, after that to face judgement. I beseech you to take heed into what has been said unto you, ought to know that man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith of Jesus Christ. What does it mean to insult the spirit of grace and to trample the Son of God? For it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God!

Babatundesunday Teniola

]]> By: Jim Sturla http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-70475 Jim Sturla Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:30:27 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/#comment-70475 Mohammed, You write "stop being so hard on Islam and make a better effort to understand it..." I ask how may we do this when all we hear is hate filled diatribe from noted Imams etc... The Muslim community gives assent to violence simply by its silence. There is a lack of trust, your own theology advocates that it is fine to tell a lie to an unbeliever if the proper (in Islamic terms) end results are achieved. Jim Sturla Mohammed,
You write “stop being so hard on Islam and make a better effort to understand it…”
I ask how may we do this when all we hear is hate filled diatribe from noted Imams etc…
The Muslim community gives assent to violence simply by its silence.
There is a lack of trust, your own theology advocates that it is fine to tell a lie to an unbeliever if the proper (in Islamic terms) end results are achieved.
Jim Sturla

]]> By: Ewan http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-70277 Ewan Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:47:25 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/#comment-70277 Rae Wallace says <i>"we all need to do our part and respect each other’s beliefs"</i>. There is a difference between showing respect for a person and showing respect for their beliefs. Whilst Christians should certainly respect all people, we should by no means respect other beliefs. Ewan McDonald. Rae Wallace says “we all need to do our part and respect each other’s beliefs”. There is a difference between showing respect for a person and showing respect for their beliefs. Whilst Christians should certainly respect all people, we should by no means respect other beliefs.

Ewan McDonald.

]]> By: Paul http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-70227 Paul Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:16:13 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/#comment-70227 Hi Bill, Your article is very encouraging, my spirit soars when I see God at work. I am also thankful for your understanding of the Quran. It does teach that the trinity is God, Jesus and Mary, which of course, is a lie in the eyes of Christians as well, but we should be ready to teach our Muslim friends, because if they are genuine, they do want to worship God, but don't have all the information. I can testify about what God is doing in Iran. I am not Iranian, but I do speak some Farsi and attend an Iranian church. It is truly amazing to see how fast this church is growing and the love these people have for God's Word and we are just in a small part of Sydney, Australia! God is truly great, the Holy Spirit never rests and Jesus is glorified. Praise be to God! Paul Harris Hi Bill,

Your article is very encouraging, my spirit soars when I see God at work. I am also thankful for your understanding of the Quran. It does teach that the trinity is God, Jesus and Mary, which of course, is a lie in the eyes of Christians as well, but we should be ready to teach our Muslim friends, because if they are genuine, they do want to worship God, but don’t have all the information.

I can testify about what God is doing in Iran. I am not Iranian, but I do speak some Farsi and attend an Iranian church. It is truly amazing to see how fast this church is growing and the love these people have for God’s Word and we are just in a small part of Sydney, Australia!

God is truly great, the Holy Spirit never rests and Jesus is glorified. Praise be to God!

Paul Harris

]]> By: Bill Muehlenberg http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-70195 Bill Muehlenberg Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:35:17 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/#comment-70195 Thanks again Mohammed But you seem to enjoy the debate, both here and on your blogsite. And many Muslims do come to believe in Jesus, as this article has noted. And many of those people that you claim are being hard on Islam have very good reason to do so. While we are glad that you and perhaps most Muslims are not flying airplanes into buildings and killing innocents in suicide bombings, far too many Muslims are. What are you doing to publicly criticise those activities Mohammed? It seems as a Muslim you have to take some ownership in all this. Thus Westerners and non-Muslims have every right to be concerned about what is being done in the name of Islam around the world. And those concerns and discussions should be freely allowed to take place. And you say “we are not hateful people”. You personally may not be, and many other Muslims may not be, but with all due respect, a quick visit to your blog will certainly see some hatred, especially toward Israel, coming out of your many links at least. So while we must treat every person as an individual, considering their differences, there is clearly a hatred of the West, of Israel, and of Christians, coming from many Muslims. Many former Muslims have carefully documented this. So these are still ongoing areas of concern, areas we cannot just minimise in some vague effort to just all get along. Thanks again for writing. Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch Thanks again Mohammed

But you seem to enjoy the debate, both here and on your blogsite. And many Muslims do come to believe in Jesus, as this article has noted. And many of those people that you claim are being hard on Islam have very good reason to do so. While we are glad that you and perhaps most Muslims are not flying airplanes into buildings and killing innocents in suicide bombings, far too many Muslims are. What are you doing to publicly criticise those activities Mohammed? It seems as a Muslim you have to take some ownership in all this. Thus Westerners and non-Muslims have every right to be concerned about what is being done in the name of Islam around the world. And those concerns and discussions should be freely allowed to take place.

And you say “we are not hateful people”. You personally may not be, and many other Muslims may not be, but with all due respect, a quick visit to your blog will certainly see some hatred, especially toward Israel, coming out of your many links at least. So while we must treat every person as an individual, considering their differences, there is clearly a hatred of the West, of Israel, and of Christians, coming from many Muslims. Many former Muslims have carefully documented this. So these are still ongoing areas of concern, areas we cannot just minimise in some vague effort to just all get along.

Thanks again for writing.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch

]]> By: Craig Manners http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-70184 Craig Manners Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:24:07 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/#comment-70184 Dear Mohammed You say "everyone is free to be whatever they want - christian, jew, buddhist, atheist." Is this true in Muslim countries? No. Islam is forced upon people in many Muslim lands and they are certainly not free to convert to Christianity. Yet there is nothing man can do to reject his Son Jesus, as is evidenced by this great news that millions of Muslims are converting to Christianity. Think about the odds of this happening, when you have Islamic governments and cultures making it as difficult as possible for anyone to hear the Gospel of Jesus, let alone to be able to publicly respond to it. The Holy Spirit is active in Islamic countries in a mighty way and man cannot stop him. May our merciful and gracious God open your eyes and your heart to the truth Mohammed. Craig Manners Dear Mohammed

You say “everyone is free to be whatever they want – christian, jew, buddhist, atheist.” Is this true in Muslim countries? No. Islam is forced upon people in many Muslim lands and they are certainly not free to convert to Christianity.

Yet there is nothing man can do to reject his Son Jesus, as is evidenced by this great news that millions of Muslims are converting to Christianity.

Think about the odds of this happening, when you have Islamic governments and cultures making it as difficult as possible for anyone to hear the Gospel of Jesus, let alone to be able to publicly respond to it.

The Holy Spirit is active in Islamic countries in a mighty way and man cannot stop him.

May our merciful and gracious God open your eyes and your heart to the truth Mohammed.

Craig Manners

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