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	<title>Comments on: Alternative Thinking on Global Warming</title>
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		<title>By: David Esdaile</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/29/alternative-thinking-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-67424</link>
		<dc:creator>David Esdaile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global warming is a beat-up. The effects of climate change in the immediate or long-term future are uncertain. But please, let&#039;s keep this knowledge to ourselves. 
Over the past 200 or so years we, i.e. humans, have raped and pillaged the very finite resources on Earth to such an extent that the profligacy of one or two greedy generations i.e. us, is in danger of rendering the earth uninhabitable through pollution, desertification and destruction of habitat. We have stolen from future generations their right and opportunity to live safely and comfortably on this planet. 
If it takes fear of climate change to persuade people to reduce their consumption of finite resources and find alternatives to depleting the reserves of fuels and minerals, then I think we should join the scare-mongers. Live simply so that others (including future generations) may simply live.
David Esdaile</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global warming is a beat-up. The effects of climate change in the immediate or long-term future are uncertain. But please, let&#8217;s keep this knowledge to ourselves.<br />
Over the past 200 or so years we, i.e. humans, have raped and pillaged the very finite resources on Earth to such an extent that the profligacy of one or two greedy generations i.e. us, is in danger of rendering the earth uninhabitable through pollution, desertification and destruction of habitat. We have stolen from future generations their right and opportunity to live safely and comfortably on this planet.<br />
If it takes fear of climate change to persuade people to reduce their consumption of finite resources and find alternatives to depleting the reserves of fuels and minerals, then I think we should join the scare-mongers. Live simply so that others (including future generations) may simply live.<br />
David Esdaile</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Sarfati</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/29/alternative-thinking-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-64084</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Sarfati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James Ramsay, I have to agree, as one whose Ph.D. was in vibrational spectroscopy.  I think that if I informed alGore, Penny Wong, Kevin Rudd or Malcolm Turnbull about even elementary concepts in infrared absorption, their eyes would go blank.  E.g. that there is a logarithmic dependence of absorption on concentration, that one of CO2&#039;s vibrational fundamental modes is infrared-inactive, i.e. doesn&#039;t absorb infrared, that water vapour is well known as a very strong absorber of infrared, as would be expected from such a polar and low-symmetry molecule ...  Yet these clowns are all jumping on a scientific bandwagon they know nothing about, and imposing huge costs on people.
Jonathan Sarfati, Brisbane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Ramsay, I have to agree, as one whose Ph.D. was in vibrational spectroscopy.  I think that if I informed alGore, Penny Wong, Kevin Rudd or Malcolm Turnbull about even elementary concepts in infrared absorption, their eyes would go blank.  E.g. that there is a logarithmic dependence of absorption on concentration, that one of CO2&#8217;s vibrational fundamental modes is infrared-inactive, i.e. doesn&#8217;t absorb infrared, that water vapour is well known as a very strong absorber of infrared, as would be expected from such a polar and low-symmetry molecule &#8230;  Yet these clowns are all jumping on a scientific bandwagon they know nothing about, and imposing huge costs on people.<br />
Jonathan Sarfati, Brisbane</p>
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		<title>By: Ewan</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/29/alternative-thinking-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-63703</link>
		<dc:creator>Ewan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat, there&#039;s also Tim Blair who like Andrew Bolt works for News Limited and writes a weekly column for Sydney&#039;s Daily Telegraph. He also has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://timblair.net/ee/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;popular blog&lt;/a&gt;.

Australian scientist Jennifer Marohasy is another AGW skeptic. She is attending the New York conference and already has a report of the first day on her &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jennifermarohasy.com/blog&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;.

Ewan McDonald, Victoria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat, there&#8217;s also Tim Blair who like Andrew Bolt works for News Limited and writes a weekly column for Sydney&#8217;s Daily Telegraph. He also has a <a href="http://timblair.net/ee/index.php" rel="nofollow">popular blog</a>.</p>
<p>Australian scientist Jennifer Marohasy is another AGW skeptic. She is attending the New York conference and already has a report of the first day on her <a href="http://www.jennifermarohasy.com/blog" rel="nofollow">blog</a>.</p>
<p>Ewan McDonald, Victoria.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/29/alternative-thinking-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-63659</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Pat, and other well-wishers.
I wonder if Bolt will make it to the New York conference. I will try to provide updates as I learn of events coming out of the conference.
Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Pat, and other well-wishers.<br />
I wonder if Bolt will make it to the New York conference. I will try to provide updates as I learn of events coming out of the conference.<br />
Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: Pat O'Brien</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/29/alternative-thinking-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-63657</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 05:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness some sense may be returning to the global warming debate.  Our grandchildren are being brainwashed in school on both global warming and the &quot;stolen generations.&quot;  The Federal Opposition has given the game away and the media, with the almost single exception of Andrew Bolt, is a disgrace.  Keep up the good work.
Pat O&#039;Brien</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank goodness some sense may be returning to the global warming debate.  Our grandchildren are being brainwashed in school on both global warming and the &#8220;stolen generations.&#8221;  The Federal Opposition has given the game away and the media, with the almost single exception of Andrew Bolt, is a disgrace.  Keep up the good work.<br />
Pat O&#8217;Brien</p>
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		<title>By: James Ramsay</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/29/alternative-thinking-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-63529</link>
		<dc:creator>James Ramsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 09:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I graduated from high school last year and was appalled by the bias in the teaching about Global Waring. It is taught as a fact that cannot be questioned despite the immense debate amongst the scientific community. With a relatively low level of knowledge of Chemistry (in specific absorption spectra), the whole agument that CO2 is going to make the world unbearably hot simply falls to peices.
All the best,
James Ramsay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I graduated from high school last year and was appalled by the bias in the teaching about Global Waring. It is taught as a fact that cannot be questioned despite the immense debate amongst the scientific community. With a relatively low level of knowledge of Chemistry (in specific absorption spectra), the whole agument that CO2 is going to make the world unbearably hot simply falls to peices.<br />
All the best,<br />
James Ramsay</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Carson</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/29/alternative-thinking-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-63336</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 06:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was in high school in the late 80&#039;s the hysteria was over the hole in the ozone layer. Our teachers were telling us that by the time we were in our 30&#039;s (now), there would be days that we would not be able to go outside without risk of severe burns. I am starting to understand why old people laugh at &quot;experts&quot;.
Damien Carson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was in high school in the late 80&#8217;s the hysteria was over the hole in the ozone layer. Our teachers were telling us that by the time we were in our 30&#8217;s (now), there would be days that we would not be able to go outside without risk of severe burns. I am starting to understand why old people laugh at &#8220;experts&#8221;.<br />
Damien Carson</p>
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		<title>By: Madge Fahy</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/29/alternative-thinking-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-63280</link>
		<dc:creator>Madge Fahy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t seem all that long ago that signs appeared which said &quot;!!!! is a Nuclear Free Zone&quot; as the public were bombarded with the news that a Nuclear war was imminent. Can you imagine any super power saying - &#039;we can&#039;t drop a nuclear bomb on !!!!!! as that is a nuclear free suburb&#039;. 

Today, it is &quot;Global Warming&quot;. Follow the money trail and you will find that Al Gore is making millions out of his Carbon Trading businesses. Once again, the media are pushing the agenda and sadly today, so many people accept that whatever the media says must be correct. 

The solution for the global warmers is a reduction in the world population. This can be achieved if  abortion becomes a human right. Abortion as a woman&#039;s human right is also seen as the only way to achieve the Millennium Development Goals. 

It is thanks to people like Bill who are prepared to speak up and expose the hype published in the media. Well done BIll.

Madge Fahy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t seem all that long ago that signs appeared which said &#8220;!!!! is a Nuclear Free Zone&#8221; as the public were bombarded with the news that a Nuclear war was imminent. Can you imagine any super power saying &#8211; &#8216;we can&#8217;t drop a nuclear bomb on !!!!!! as that is a nuclear free suburb&#8217;. </p>
<p>Today, it is &#8220;Global Warming&#8221;. Follow the money trail and you will find that Al Gore is making millions out of his Carbon Trading businesses. Once again, the media are pushing the agenda and sadly today, so many people accept that whatever the media says must be correct. </p>
<p>The solution for the global warmers is a reduction in the world population. This can be achieved if  abortion becomes a human right. Abortion as a woman&#8217;s human right is also seen as the only way to achieve the Millennium Development Goals. </p>
<p>It is thanks to people like Bill who are prepared to speak up and expose the hype published in the media. Well done BIll.</p>
<p>Madge Fahy</p>
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		<title>By: Edi Giudetti</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/29/alternative-thinking-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-63196</link>
		<dc:creator>Edi Giudetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget they are teaching this stuff to your children in school. Ever asked where the boundary between political indoctrination and education lie?

&lt;i&gt;Ohh&lt;/i&gt; what a battle it will be for the parents who have the time and are not distracted by trying to make ends meet or alternatives priorities. 

Edi Giudetti</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget they are teaching this stuff to your children in school. Ever asked where the boundary between political indoctrination and education lie?</p>
<p><i>Ohh</i> what a battle it will be for the parents who have the time and are not distracted by trying to make ends meet or alternatives priorities. </p>
<p>Edi Giudetti</p>
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		<title>By: John Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/29/alternative-thinking-on-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-63132</link>
		<dc:creator>John Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The emperor may need some clothes soon to stay warm.

John Nelson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The emperor may need some clothes soon to stay warm.</p>
<p>John Nelson</p>
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