Comments on: Women and Islam http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/ Bill Muehlenberg's commentary on issues of the day... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:50:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Bill Muehlenberg http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/comment-page-1/#comment-97983 Bill Muehlenberg Fri, 29 Aug 2008 03:59:14 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/#comment-97983 Thanks Asia But it is exactly those three sources you appeal to that I have quoted from. Thus I am not mixing culture and religion as you suggest, but simply appealing to Islam’s most authoritative sources. You seem unhappy with this, but that is a case of shooting the messenger. If you do not like the message – the reality of how women are treated in Islam - then maybe you need to reconsider your commitment to Islam. Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch Thanks Asia

But it is exactly those three sources you appeal to that I have quoted from. Thus I am not mixing culture and religion as you suggest, but simply appealing to Islam’s most authoritative sources. You seem unhappy with this, but that is a case of shooting the messenger. If you do not like the message – the reality of how women are treated in Islam – then maybe you need to reconsider your commitment to Islam.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch

]]> By: Asia Goodman http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/comment-page-1/#comment-97980 Asia Goodman Fri, 29 Aug 2008 03:40:30 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/#comment-97980 Im 19 years old and I've grown up in a islamic household since birth. I understand that you've observed or gotten" testimonies" of some sort from muslim women overseas about how they are being treating but please don't mix culture with religion. I live in NJ. Study the koran SUNNAH n hadiths closely and literally because your linking there behavior with islam and quotations. Pretty much exaggerating. (also i think that every religion teaches you not to drink smoke and fornicate) Asia Goodman, US Im 19 years old and I’ve grown up in a islamic household since birth. I understand that you’ve observed or gotten” testimonies” of some sort from muslim women overseas about how they are being treating but please don’t mix culture with religion. I live in NJ. Study the koran SUNNAH n hadiths closely and literally because your linking there behavior with islam and quotations. Pretty much exaggerating. (also i think that every religion teaches you not to drink smoke and fornicate)
Asia Goodman, US

]]> By: Bill Muehlenberg http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/comment-page-1/#comment-63966 Bill Muehlenberg Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:37:55 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/#comment-63966 Thanks for the correction Slevdi Evidently the 7 rapists who raped the 19-year-old 14 times were sentenced from 6 months to five years in jail. Eventually, after worldwide condemnation, King Abdullah pardoned her. Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch Thanks for the correction Slevdi

Evidently the 7 rapists who raped the 19-year-old 14 times were sentenced from 6 months to five years in jail. Eventually, after worldwide condemnation, King Abdullah pardoned her.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch

]]> By: J. C. Wolfgang Mozart http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/comment-page-1/#comment-62866 J. C. Wolfgang Mozart Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:28:17 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/#comment-62866 A very fascinating article about the Hadiths and Women. I see that Turkey is undergoing a new translation of the Hadiths- and they are involving women in this. All together interesting. Thank you! J. C. Wolfgang Mozart A very fascinating article about the Hadiths and Women. I see that Turkey is undergoing a new translation of the Hadiths- and they are involving women in this.

All together interesting. Thank you!

J. C. Wolfgang Mozart

]]> By: Philip Saenz http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/comment-page-1/#comment-62436 Philip Saenz Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:18:03 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/#comment-62436 So the author's commentary states that "what Muslims call a marriage others might call it paedophilia." Would brutal Muslim lechers ever call a so-called marriage to a child of nine "paedophilia"? Of course not. Bear in mind that brutal lechers of that caliber would never condemn themselves. And neither would lechers call the "consummation of marriage" with a child of nine "rape." It takes honest and just people to call this act what it actually is --paedophilia and rape. And what do Muslims call a suicide bomber? In Muslim land, suicide bombers are called "martyrs dying for a worthy cause." But is it? Philip Saenz So the author’s commentary states that “what Muslims call a marriage others might call it paedophilia.” Would brutal Muslim lechers ever call a so-called marriage to a child of nine “paedophilia”? Of course not. Bear in mind that brutal lechers of that caliber would never condemn themselves. And neither would lechers call the “consummation of marriage” with a child of nine “rape.” It takes honest and just people to call this act what it actually is –paedophilia and rape. And what do Muslims call a suicide bomber? In Muslim land, suicide bombers are called “martyrs dying for a worthy cause.” But is it?
Philip Saenz

]]> By: Bill Muehlenberg http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/comment-page-1/#comment-62346 Bill Muehlenberg Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:27:43 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/#comment-62346 Thanks Ray Sura 24:31. As to tracts, the various Christian mission groups to Islam would have them. Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch Thanks Ray
Sura 24:31.
As to tracts, the various Christian mission groups to Islam would have them.
Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch

]]> By: Ray Robinson http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/comment-page-1/#comment-62080 Ray Robinson Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:21:07 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/#comment-62080 Bill, could you please give the Sura reference for the wearing of the veil. You did not in the relevant paragraph above. I am currently working up a 'tract' and the 'veil' will be one point of information. Do you know of sources for tracts regarding Islam? Ray Robinson, Wollongong Bill, could you please give the Sura reference for the wearing of the veil. You did not in the relevant paragraph above.
I am currently working up a ‘tract’ and the ‘veil’ will be one point of information. Do you know of sources for tracts regarding Islam?
Ray Robinson, Wollongong

]]> By: Slevdi http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/comment-page-1/#comment-62015 Slevdi Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:50:21 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/#comment-62015 Great article, but I was a little concerned about the phrasing of one point: "Instead of punishing the rapists, she was sentenced to 200 lashes and six months prison in Saudi Arabia." The rapists were actually punished. While I agree with the thrust of your article, being casual with the truth like this detracts from its credibility. Slevdi Davoteca Great article, but I was a little concerned about the phrasing of one point:

“Instead of punishing the rapists, she was sentenced to 200 lashes and six months prison in Saudi Arabia.”

The rapists were actually punished.

While I agree with the thrust of your article, being casual with the truth like this detracts from its credibility.

Slevdi Davoteca

]]> By: Bob Smith http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/comment-page-1/#comment-61837 Bob Smith Sat, 23 Feb 2008 06:05:45 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/#comment-61837 Islam is a death cult, all gussied up to look like a religion. It manifests itself in many irrational ways. The treatment of women inside of Islam can only be described as barbaric. Western women’s rights groups could have a major roll in forcing a reformation of Islam and helping the plight of hundreds of millions of women. All they need to do is drop the PC multicultural double talk and critically look at Islam. Then start talking – loudly. Bob Smith Islam is a death cult, all gussied up to look like a religion.

It manifests itself in many irrational ways.

The treatment of women inside of Islam can only be described as barbaric.

Western women’s rights groups could have a major roll in forcing a reformation of Islam and helping the plight of hundreds of millions of women. All they need to do is drop the PC multicultural double talk and critically look at Islam. Then start talking – loudly.

Bob Smith

]]> By: Jonathan Sarfati http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/comment-page-1/#comment-61802 Jonathan Sarfati Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:52:31 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/02/22/islam-and-women-2/#comment-61802 Hardly surprising from Moyes. Years ago, he also strongly supported Ian Plimer, Australian Humanist of the Year, in his jihad against biblical creation, and would never let the targets of his attacks respond in the same area (his radio show). Jonathan Sarfati, Brisbane Hardly surprising from Moyes. Years ago, he also strongly supported Ian Plimer, Australian Humanist of the Year, in his jihad against biblical creation, and would never let the targets of his attacks respond in the same area (his radio show).
Jonathan Sarfati, Brisbane

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