Comments on: More Madness, More Messed Up Children

By: Bill Muehlenberg

Bill Muehlenberg — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 05:18:42 +0000

Thanks Ann

But the reason why your comment should not be posted here does not have to do with content, but the rules. You are supposed to provide a full name here.

This article (and others like it here on this site) make it clear that children do best when raised by their own biological mother and father, all things considered. Sure, one can find exceptions, but exceptions should not make the rule.

And you simply compare apples and oranges here. It simply does not follow to say that if some heterosexual couples are messed up, then other lifestyle arrangements should be fully allowed and justified.

This is not a matter of generalisations, but of 40 years of social science research and evidence. Children have a fundamental human right to be born into, and raised by, a biological two-parent family. The wellbeing of children is the issue here, not the whims of adults with alternative lifestyles.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch

By: Ann

Ann — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 07:33:21 +0000

How is it that the homosexual lifestyle is about “pleasing adults and satisfying their lusts, not considering the needs of children”.

Sure there are some homosexuals out there in the gay community where that may be the case, but to say that about the “homosexual lifestyle” is just one massive generalisation with no real justification, not to mention an insult to the gay community. There is no real lifestyle that suits the majority of homosexuals, just like heterosexuals.

I have to agree the cases that you speak of are messed up, but the fact that those people are gay, has very little to do with it. What about all the affairs, bondage, child porn, rape incidents etc, that involve heterosexuals. Does that mean that it is a part of the heterosexual lifestyle? No, it doesn’t. People are just people, and no matter what minority, there are going to be those few that are a little messed up. So don’t generalise.

I don’t expect this comment to be accepted either.

Ann

By: Pat O'Brien

Pat O'Brien — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:06:20 +0000

Dear Bill,
Keep up the good work. As you say the gay revolution is creating havoc in our society.
Regards, Pat O’Brien

By: ray robinson

ray robinson — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:16:40 +0000

History indicates that the alternate minority appear to be regularly challenging the status quo with a loud and interminable assault on political decision makers until they win. History also indicates that the Christian Church in recent decades has literally given up the conviction of the ‘Holy Ghost’. Our expectations for political and societal leadership from the church elders is seriously misplaced. They are not trained or equipped for such a role and we err by expecting them to do so.
Ray Robinson, Wollongong

By: Marion Teh

Marion Teh — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 06:47:00 +0000

Thanks again Bill for your tireless effort and for your perseverance. Despite some very negative remarks from those who disagree with your articles you have chosen to stand firm for what you (and those you represent..i.e us) believe in. Its not just a matter of being passionate about the protection and well-being of children, its also the impact it would have on our society as a whole that should be taken seriously. I don’t think we need to be expects in psychology to know what baggages these poor kids have to carry or how they are going to impact our society. And as David Skinner puts it so articulately in response to Matt Page’s comment, we do reap what we sow.
Marion Teh

By: David Skinner

David Skinner — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:08:35 +0000

Matt Page are you serious or are you simply trying to get a reaction? For this one case to have even got to this stage shows just how blunted the moral conscience of the prosecution service has become. Not many decades ago these two would never have dared to go anywhere near a court. What has changed is the confidence, arrogance and fearlessness of the stiff-necked, and those determined to have their wills be done – to defy all laws of conscience and decency. Go into any school today and you will see wholesale children knowing and demanding their rights.
I read somewhere of how a man, during the late thirties, in Germany, saw for the first time a Jew being publicly humiliated. At first he was horrified; the second time he saw such a scene he was troubled, the third time he felt a little uneasy and so on and so on until eventually he barely noticed such barbarism taking place around him.
In Bill’s article, When Nations Collapse, 2006/0707, to which I referred to above, Lord Macaulay (1800-1859), the English writer and historian, described that a nation’s destiny doesn’t just happen; it is a process, with one stage imperceptibly leading to another. Somewhere else someone said: Sow a thought and reap an action. Sow an action and reap a habit. Sow a habit and reap a character and finally, Sow a character and reap a destiny. We are reaping that which was sowed forty years and fifty years ago – arguably longer.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance is also another true statement.
David Skinner, UK

By: Bill Muehlenberg

Bill Muehlenberg — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:15:40 +0000

Thanks Matt

But I will always be passionate about the protection and wellbeing of children. These two cases are just some of the more extreme cases, but similar sorts of cases can be cited. And where did I say all same-sex couples will follow suit?

While most homosexual couples may not be guilty of the insanity involved in these two cases, it still can be argued that child neglect, if not abuse, occurs in every instance of homosexual adoption or access to children through ART.

In every case, the fundamental right of a child to be raised by his or her biological mother and father is being denied to them, and deliberately so. All this in spite of the mountain of evidence which demonstrates so clearly the overwhelming advantages of being raised by one’s own biological parents.

So yes, I am bothered greatly whenever I see children disadvantaged in life, just so that adult’s lusts and selfishness can be catered to, be it homosexual or heterosexual.

The truth is Matt, it is never a waste of energy to stand up for the rights and the interests of children.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch

By: Matt Page

Matt Page — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:00:05 +0000

Hey Bill
Of course there is hope for civilisation! I’m actually very surprised at how angry and fearful people in the public are getting at this story. Why do the acts of two very selfish women necessarily spell a decline of civilisation and values? Does this necessarily mean that all same-sex couples will start to follow suit? We don’t even know the verdict of the case yet! I think it highly unlikely that these women will win their case, but if they do, then I think there should be an uproar – but for now, all this emotion and rhetoric over the acts of two selfish women before anyone even knows the outcome of the legal case seems like a big waste of energy.
Matt Page

By: Bill Muehlenberg

Bill Muehlenberg — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:36:47 +0000

Thanks John
Maybe there is some hope for civilisation yet!
Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch

By: John Angelico

John Angelico — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:33:48 +0000

Bill and fellow correspondents,

The comments on the news.com.au report were running vastly in favour of the general theme “grow up you gold-diggers”.

There were even comments from professed lesbians expressing their embarrassment at the childishness of this pair.

Others complained about a double standard – that people don’t complain about “hetero couples” who do the same thing ie. launch legal action.

Some saw the light better and actually wrote asking “what are these children going to feel like, and what kind of taunts will they receive when they go to school etc.?”

John Angelico