Comments on: Learning to Live With Limits http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/08/09/learning-to-live-with-limits/ Bill Muehlenberg's commentary on issues of the day... Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:03:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: david skinner http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/08/09/learning-to-live-with-limits/comment-page-1/#comment-25629 david skinner Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:29:14 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/08/09/learning-to-live-with-limits/#comment-25629 Dear Bill, In 2 Corinthians 12 Paul says, “To keep me from becoming conceited because of these surpassingly great revelations, there was given me a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. But he said to me, 'My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.' Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ's sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong." Suffering is very often the door to discovering that God is with us, and that without it we would never have experienced that He is intimately interested in every aspect of our lives. Christ spelt this out clearly in the purpose of Lazarus’s death. It was designed to bring us to worship God. David Skinner, UK Dear Bill, In 2 Corinthians 12 Paul says, “To keep me from becoming conceited because of these surpassingly great revelations, there was given me a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. But he said to me, ‘My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.’ Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.”
Suffering is very often the door to discovering that God is with us, and that without it we would never have experienced that He is intimately interested in every aspect of our lives. Christ spelt this out clearly in the purpose of Lazarus’s death. It was designed to bring us to worship God.
David Skinner, UK

]]> By: Jon Newton http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/08/09/learning-to-live-with-limits/comment-page-1/#comment-25427 Jon Newton Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:01:22 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/08/09/learning-to-live-with-limits/#comment-25427 I'm a bit troubled by aspects of this argument. Christians should surely not be arguing that medical advances as such are dangerous to faith. At least some advances were discovered or promoted by believers. Christians are still helping prolong life sacrificially all over the world. None of us want to retreat to the middle ages where faith seemed to prevent scientific advance. On the other hand, modernism is surely wrong to push medical "progress" at all costs. Christians want to protect the most vulnerable, which includes not only poor and starving children in Africa or dying beggars in Calcutta but also unborn babies worldwide. Medical science only starts to play God when it experiments with (potential or actual) human lives. Otherwise I think God is in favour of technological and medical progress and longer life expectancy; we are still along way short of the length of pre-Flood heroes like Methusaleh! Jon Newton I’m a bit troubled by aspects of this argument. Christians should surely not be arguing that medical advances as such are dangerous to faith. At least some advances were discovered or promoted by believers. Christians are still helping prolong life sacrificially all over the world. None of us want to retreat to the middle ages where faith seemed to prevent scientific advance.

On the other hand, modernism is surely wrong to push medical “progress” at all costs. Christians want to protect the most vulnerable, which includes not only poor and starving children in Africa or dying beggars in Calcutta but also unborn babies worldwide.

Medical science only starts to play God when it experiments with (potential or actual) human lives. Otherwise I think God is in favour of technological and medical progress and longer life expectancy; we are still along way short of the length of pre-Flood heroes like Methusaleh!

Jon Newton

]]> By: jim http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/08/09/learning-to-live-with-limits/comment-page-1/#comment-25394 jim Sat, 11 Aug 2007 03:48:17 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/08/09/learning-to-live-with-limits/#comment-25394 Hi Bill After reading your article I am so happy that I am a finite being and not a god; I couldn't handle the responsibility. Jim Sturla Hi Bill
After reading your article I am so happy that I am a finite being and not a god; I couldn’t handle the responsibility.
Jim Sturla

]]> By: Katherine Fishley http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/08/09/learning-to-live-with-limits/comment-page-1/#comment-25376 Katherine Fishley Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:48:48 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/08/09/learning-to-live-with-limits/#comment-25376 That God became man is now replaced by Man becomes god. Hide the destruct button so that the managers can't find it. Stan Fishley. That God became man is now replaced by Man becomes god. Hide the destruct button so that the managers can’t find it.
Stan Fishley.

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