Comments on: Nothing New About “The Secret” http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/ Bill Muehlenberg's commentary on issues of the day... Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:56:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Danilo http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-134278 Danilo Tue, 14 Apr 2009 06:05:37 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/#comment-134278 "I would hate to see a world of selfish men bless their own lives while others suffer" - Zac I think we live in that world already Zac thanks to the neocon corporate fascists that rule the western governments by proxy. The big 'secret' is analogous with the works of Anton Lavey in his 'satanic bible', a doctrine totally dependant on man's inclination towards self-indulgance and greed. Danilo Rajkovic “I would hate to see a world of selfish men bless their own lives while others suffer” – Zac

I think we live in that world already Zac thanks to the neocon corporate fascists that rule the western governments by proxy.

The big ’secret’ is analogous with the works of Anton Lavey in his ’satanic bible’, a doctrine totally dependant on man’s inclination towards self-indulgance and greed.

Danilo Rajkovic

]]> By: Zac Carter http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-101990 Zac Carter Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:52:11 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/#comment-101990 I dont doubt mind over matter. I do believe it is a little more than the mind. We are children of a most powerful God and I do believe that he desires all gifts that he has to our benefit. All things are possible. I do not doubt the ideas in the Secret, or call them pagan, etc. It may be TRUE! and the law of attraction as called, will bring me whatever I wish. I really do not care for the book, and ideas in it for one simple reason: ME, ME, ME. The message of the Secret is simply selfishness. That is the problem. All these gifts, and powers over the universe will only damn ones soul if they are used to serve the self. There is nothing Godlike about the self. Christ teaches to love one another, if the book expressed success by using such gifts and laws to attract and bless others than I may buy into it, but as is.. I find it to be a story of false beliefs. Satan has power over man by manipulating the powers that God allows on earth. He manipulates that which is good for evil. Perhaps use the law of attraction to bless your neighbor first would be more appropriate, I would hate to see a world of selfish men bless their own lives while others suffer. Zac Carter I dont doubt mind over matter. I do believe it is a little more than the mind. We are children of a most powerful God and I do believe that he desires all gifts that he has to our benefit. All things are possible. I do not doubt the ideas in the Secret, or call them pagan, etc. It may be TRUE! and the law of attraction as called, will bring me whatever I wish.

I really do not care for the book, and ideas in it for one simple reason: ME, ME, ME. The message of the Secret is simply selfishness. That is the problem. All these gifts, and powers over the universe will only damn ones soul if they are used to serve the self. There is nothing Godlike about the self. Christ teaches to love one another, if the book expressed success by using such gifts and laws to attract and bless others than I may buy into it, but as is.. I find it to be a story of false beliefs.

Satan has power over man by manipulating the powers that God allows on earth. He manipulates that which is good for evil. Perhaps use the law of attraction to bless your neighbor first would be more appropriate, I would hate to see a world of selfish men bless their own lives while others suffer.

Zac Carter

]]> By: Peregrine Andrews http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-34302 Peregrine Andrews Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:59:07 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/#comment-34302 Thank you for talking such sense. I tried to watch "The Secret" last night and found it intolerably awful. It was like an infommercial. I managed 40 minutes. And just what are the life goals that such a profound theory can be used to acheive? A huge house, flashy car and great holidays. Brilliant. Peregrine Andrews Thank you for talking such sense. I tried to watch “The Secret” last night and found it intolerably awful. It was like an infommercial. I managed 40 minutes. And just what are the life goals that such a profound theory can be used to acheive? A huge house, flashy car and great holidays. Brilliant.
Peregrine Andrews

]]> By: Alicia Bertschinger http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-26525 Alicia Bertschinger Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:54:15 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/#comment-26525 I agree with you, there is nothing new in this book. Don't waste your money! The only person who is getting richer by the minute is Rhonda Bryne. I have achieved a very comfortable position in life, but I didn't achieve it by thinking positively, I made it by working very hard. And who says happiness is about being rich? I find that helping others and giving people love is what makes me happy. Alicia Bertschinger I agree with you, there is nothing new in this book. Don’t waste your money! The only person who is getting richer by the minute is Rhonda Bryne. I have achieved a very comfortable position in life, but I didn’t achieve it by thinking positively, I made it by working very hard. And who says happiness is about being rich? I find that helping others and giving people love is what makes me happy.
Alicia Bertschinger

]]> By: Garth http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-19455 Garth Thu, 07 Jun 2007 06:27:08 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/#comment-19455 oooh correction. The Secret must work! You know, I realised I've been thinking a lot about hair regrowth lately and I checked myself and sure enough it has! Now if I just focus on figuring out how to get it to grow on my head instead of just my ears and chest... I guess I'll have to shell out for the The Secret companion practical guide addition. I'm sure I'll find the steps there... Garth Penglase oooh correction. The Secret must work!

You know, I realised I’ve been thinking a lot about hair regrowth lately and I checked myself and sure enough it has! Now if I just focus on figuring out how to get it to grow on my head instead of just my ears and chest…

I guess I’ll have to shell out for the The Secret companion practical guide addition. I’m sure I’ll find the steps there…

Garth Penglase

]]> By: Garth http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-19446 Garth Thu, 07 Jun 2007 05:51:59 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/#comment-19446 A good effort from a single mum looking to change her circumstances. I applaud her for that. Pity it's all garbage. It proves that it is possible to make plenty of money out of re-hashing warm-fuzzy-feel-good self-help material. (see my post in the other article for further elaboration). Garth Penglase A good effort from a single mum looking to change her circumstances. I applaud her for that. Pity it’s all garbage. It proves that it is possible to make plenty of money out of re-hashing warm-fuzzy-feel-good self-help material.

(see my post in the other article for further elaboration).

Garth Penglase

]]> By: Garth http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-19444 Garth Thu, 07 Jun 2007 05:47:03 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/#comment-19444 Hi Alan, there is a balance in all this. I agree it is good to test things, to find the truth and not be satisfied until you've found it. And also we must have faith, built upon an unshakeable belief system. We all have belief systems which are faulty in varying degrees - if one cannot accept that then one is not truly searching for truth but merely seeking to propose and propagate his own theories. We sit on a chair because we have faith in it holding us up - proven by physics, but mainly by our experience with chairs holding us up. I challenge you to examine the things that you have faith in, because everyone has faith in something. A self-made man has faith in himself (and usually worships his creator) until he is ruined and then he jumps out of a window. Here's a challenge... Self-pity, which we all suffer from at some point or the other, is pure self-centredness. Next time you're feeling sorry for yourself, ask yourself [on the basis there is a God] ask God to reveal what He is doing in your life. You'll know it when the truth hits you. Garth Penglase Hi Alan,
there is a balance in all this. I agree it is good to test things, to find the truth and not be satisfied until you’ve found it. And also we must have faith, built upon an unshakeable belief system.

We all have belief systems which are faulty in varying degrees – if one cannot accept that then one is not truly searching for truth but merely seeking to propose and propagate his own theories.

We sit on a chair because we have faith in it holding us up – proven by physics, but mainly by our experience with chairs holding us up.

I challenge you to examine the things that you have faith in, because everyone has faith in something. A self-made man has faith in himself (and usually worships his creator) until he is ruined and then he jumps out of a window.

Here’s a challenge…
Self-pity, which we all suffer from at some point or the other, is pure self-centredness. Next time you’re feeling sorry for yourself, ask yourself [on the basis there is a God] ask God to reveal what He is doing in your life. You’ll know it when the truth hits you.

Garth Penglase

]]> By: Bill Muehlenberg http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-16297 Bill Muehlenberg Wed, 23 May 2007 08:18:46 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/#comment-16297 Thanks Alan While many religions may be largely untestable, the Christian religion is the most testable. Above, the reliability of the Gospels and the historicity of Jesus are all issues that can be closely examined and tested. Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch Thanks Alan
While many religions may be largely untestable, the Christian religion is the most testable. Above, the reliability of the Gospels and the historicity of Jesus are all issues that can be closely examined and tested.
Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch

]]> By: James Swanson http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-16296 James Swanson Wed, 23 May 2007 08:08:12 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/#comment-16296 Wow, that book is a load of rubbish. If thinking about being rich made you rich, I'd be swimming in gold right now. James Swanson Wow, that book is a load of rubbish.

If thinking about being rich made you rich, I’d be swimming in gold right now.

James Swanson

]]> By: Alan Simpson http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-16295 Alan Simpson Wed, 23 May 2007 08:02:21 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/23/nothing-new-about-%e2%80%9cthe-secret%e2%80%9d/#comment-16295 Hi Bill, I don't think you should assume that skeptics are atheists. The Australian Skeptics are mostly concerned with debunking pseudo-science and testable paranormal claims. They tend to steer clear of religion because most of its tenets are untestable. I'm not a member by the way, but I agree with their objectives. Alan Simpson, Queensland Hi Bill,

I don’t think you should assume that skeptics are atheists. The Australian Skeptics are mostly concerned with debunking pseudo-science and testable paranormal claims. They tend to steer clear of religion because most of its tenets are untestable. I’m not a member by the way, but I agree with their objectives.

Alan Simpson, Queensland

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