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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2007/05/16/why-are-they-so-angry/comment-page-1/#comment-21410</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Michael Boswell in that the people who do the things you say should be condemned, in fact the Christian scriptures teach us these things.
I consider myself to be right wing but I do not oppress women (ask my wife and sisters), I do not persecute refugees (my closest friends are from Vietnam, China, Taiwan, Korea, Lybia and Singapore, my wife is also a refugee (having arrived here from Germany).
I do not hate people of different sexuality and religion but I do maintain my right to disagree with them without being persecuted.
What have I done to deserve the discrimination that his people promote against me?
Jim Sturla</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Michael Boswell in that the people who do the things you say should be condemned, in fact the Christian scriptures teach us these things.<br />
I consider myself to be right wing but I do not oppress women (ask my wife and sisters), I do not persecute refugees (my closest friends are from Vietnam, China, Taiwan, Korea, Lybia and Singapore, my wife is also a refugee (having arrived here from Germany).<br />
I do not hate people of different sexuality and religion but I do maintain my right to disagree with them without being persecuted.<br />
What have I done to deserve the discrimination that his people promote against me?<br />
Jim Sturla</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 23:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why do the heathen rage...&quot; 
I have just finished reading Psalm 2, the Bible Society Reading for today, 19 May.   David saw the same thing in his day and prophetically wrote down what we see today.
Psalm 2 goes on to remind us that God has it all in control, and one day the Righteous One will reign.
Stephen White</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why do the heathen rage&#8230;&#8221;<br />
I have just finished reading Psalm 2, the Bible Society Reading for today, 19 May.   David saw the same thing in his day and prophetically wrote down what we see today.<br />
Psalm 2 goes on to remind us that God has it all in control, and one day the Righteous One will reign.<br />
Stephen White</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Lyte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Lyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 04:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I’m not meaning to be yet another person to take sides against Mr. Boswell, I must say I am disappointed to see reason going. With postmodernism becoming more popular and as it seems that any one can throw away any value or truth they want - what is left to hold our society together? 

      What if the law of governments becomes subjective? If we deconstruct Christian leaders, which we are doing, then where do we stop? Who is really concerned about the &quot;fabric&quot; of society? Oh, my apologies, should I not say the &quot;individual strands&quot; of society.

       I am also curious as to why Mr. Boswell, you seem to think you have the right to vilify Christianity in a public arena? So for one last question, if you are bold enough to answer, who is it exactly who presented you with this “educated” predisposition?  

Jesse Lyte</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I’m not meaning to be yet another person to take sides against Mr. Boswell, I must say I am disappointed to see reason going. With postmodernism becoming more popular and as it seems that any one can throw away any value or truth they want &#8211; what is left to hold our society together? </p>
<p>      What if the law of governments becomes subjective? If we deconstruct Christian leaders, which we are doing, then where do we stop? Who is really concerned about the &#8220;fabric&#8221; of society? Oh, my apologies, should I not say the &#8220;individual strands&#8221; of society.</p>
<p>       I am also curious as to why Mr. Boswell, you seem to think you have the right to vilify Christianity in a public arena? So for one last question, if you are bold enough to answer, who is it exactly who presented you with this “educated” predisposition?  </p>
<p>Jesse Lyte</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Beattie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Beattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 00:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael B, the Greens party may have been on a crusade to stitch up the evil &quot;religious right&quot; in the recent NSW state elections. But for them to take the moral highground when it comes to family values in preposterous, even laughable (“hate is not a family value!”)

Apart from wishy-washy justification, I&#039;m interested how the Green Party&#039;s policy to abolish drug prohibition would contribute to &#039;family values&#039;. If we were to remove the reality of consequences, perhaps this ideology would make sense ie &#039;religious right&#039; = hatemongers; &#039;Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law&#039; = utopia.

Luke Beattie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael B, the Greens party may have been on a crusade to stitch up the evil &#8220;religious right&#8221; in the recent NSW state elections. But for them to take the moral highground when it comes to family values in preposterous, even laughable (“hate is not a family value!”)</p>
<p>Apart from wishy-washy justification, I&#8217;m interested how the Green Party&#8217;s policy to abolish drug prohibition would contribute to &#8216;family values&#8217;. If we were to remove the reality of consequences, perhaps this ideology would make sense ie &#8216;religious right&#8217; = hatemongers; &#8216;Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law&#8217; = utopia.</p>
<p>Luke Beattie</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 14:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, I think David Skinner has hit the nail on the head. 
If you stand for God, you are right-eous, and upright.
If you oppose God and Christians, then you are un-right-eous : you are of the left, and spiritually opposed to God. Young&#039;s concordance gives some of the meanings of unrighteous as:iniquity, vanity, violence, perverse, injustice and lawlessness. Obvious fruits of the Left. 

This appears to be a rule-of-thumb standard in political classification, and apparently accepted from both sides of politics.
Some good, well-meaning Christians are in the camp of the Left, however, they are captives of the spiritual malaise that comes from being slaves to misotheistic policies of Leftist parties.
Some misotheists are also in right-wing parties, but really they want to have the benefits of Christian society and its heritage without acknowledging the debt they owe to Godly righteousness. They are wolves in sheep&#039;s clothing. 

Thank God for Christians who make a righteous political or public stand for God and the family, such as Fred Nile, Australian Family Association and the Family First Party.

Michael Evans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, I think David Skinner has hit the nail on the head.<br />
If you stand for God, you are right-eous, and upright.<br />
If you oppose God and Christians, then you are un-right-eous : you are of the left, and spiritually opposed to God. Young&#8217;s concordance gives some of the meanings of unrighteous as:iniquity, vanity, violence, perverse, injustice and lawlessness. Obvious fruits of the Left. </p>
<p>This appears to be a rule-of-thumb standard in political classification, and apparently accepted from both sides of politics.<br />
Some good, well-meaning Christians are in the camp of the Left, however, they are captives of the spiritual malaise that comes from being slaves to misotheistic policies of Leftist parties.<br />
Some misotheists are also in right-wing parties, but really they want to have the benefits of Christian society and its heritage without acknowledging the debt they owe to Godly righteousness. They are wolves in sheep&#8217;s clothing. </p>
<p>Thank God for Christians who make a righteous political or public stand for God and the family, such as Fred Nile, Australian Family Association and the Family First Party.</p>
<p>Michael Evans</p>
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		<title>By: david skinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>david skinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 11:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad thing is that Christians are not filled with the righteous anger that Christ often demonstrated, especially at those who would lead children astray.  Equally we should not be indifferent to the terrible fate that awaits those who shake the fist at God, for as C.S. Lewis said: &quot;In the end that face which is the delight or the terror of the universe must be turned upon each of us either with one expression or with the other, either conferring glory inexpressible or inflicting shame that can never be cured or disguised.&quot;
Savid Skinner, UK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad thing is that Christians are not filled with the righteous anger that Christ often demonstrated, especially at those who would lead children astray.  Equally we should not be indifferent to the terrible fate that awaits those who shake the fist at God, for as C.S. Lewis said: &#8220;In the end that face which is the delight or the terror of the universe must be turned upon each of us either with one expression or with the other, either conferring glory inexpressible or inflicting shame that can never be cured or disguised.&#8221;<br />
Savid Skinner, UK</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 10:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Anger is only from the left&lt;/i&gt;
No, that&#039;s not what Bill is saying.  I&#039;m not Left, never have been and never will be.  I&#039;d rather die.  And I&#039;m very angry.  The difference between those angry people on the Left and those on the Right is the way that anger is expressed.  I seem to remember a couple of years ago, several protest marches through the streets of Sydney of anarchic Leftists which got so bad they were even damaging the cars of their own party leaders.  I think even Bob Brown was a bit worried about his car.  The police had to be called in and their incoherent head organizer could barely string a few words together to explain her position.  When do you see violent crowds of Conservatives having to be controlled by police on horseback?  And this is just one example.  We all know that there are many others.
Dee Graf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Anger is only from the left</i><br />
No, that&#8217;s not what Bill is saying.  I&#8217;m not Left, never have been and never will be.  I&#8217;d rather die.  And I&#8217;m very angry.  The difference between those angry people on the Left and those on the Right is the way that anger is expressed.  I seem to remember a couple of years ago, several protest marches through the streets of Sydney of anarchic Leftists which got so bad they were even damaging the cars of their own party leaders.  I think even Bob Brown was a bit worried about his car.  The police had to be called in and their incoherent head organizer could barely string a few words together to explain her position.  When do you see violent crowds of Conservatives having to be controlled by police on horseback?  And this is just one example.  We all know that there are many others.<br />
Dee Graf</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 09:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Michael

But so typical of the left, you misrepresent my position, then attack it, and then think you have won the debate. I made it perfectly clear that the left is not alone in such hatred – just that it tends to be found there more often.

I am afraid your comment is a good example of the Orwellian doublespeak so characteristic of the far left. In their view, anyone concerned about the institutions of marriage and family somehow oppresses women and hates minorities. I fail to see the connection.

And those concerned about people flying airplanes into buildings, seeking to kill as many women and children as possible, or using Mickey Mouse to teach kids how to hate Jews and others, are somehow hating all Muslims. And those concerned about national sovereignty and border protection are somehow persecuting refugees.

Methinks Alice in Wonderland would be proud of such convoluted thinking.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Michael</p>
<p>But so typical of the left, you misrepresent my position, then attack it, and then think you have won the debate. I made it perfectly clear that the left is not alone in such hatred – just that it tends to be found there more often.</p>
<p>I am afraid your comment is a good example of the Orwellian doublespeak so characteristic of the far left. In their view, anyone concerned about the institutions of marriage and family somehow oppresses women and hates minorities. I fail to see the connection.</p>
<p>And those concerned about people flying airplanes into buildings, seeking to kill as many women and children as possible, or using Mickey Mouse to teach kids how to hate Jews and others, are somehow hating all Muslims. And those concerned about national sovereignty and border protection are somehow persecuting refugees.</p>
<p>Methinks Alice in Wonderland would be proud of such convoluted thinking.</p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: Micahel Boswell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micahel Boswell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 08:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anger is only from the left.  I think not!  Besides anyone who is interested in oppressing women, persecuting refugees and promoting hatred against those of other sexualities and religions (like Muslims) deserves the strongest opposition. One of the slogans of the Greens in the last state election sums the religious right up perfectly, &quot;hate is not a family value!&quot;

If you cannot stand the heat, you should get out of the kitchen.

Michael Boswell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anger is only from the left.  I think not!  Besides anyone who is interested in oppressing women, persecuting refugees and promoting hatred against those of other sexualities and religions (like Muslims) deserves the strongest opposition. One of the slogans of the Greens in the last state election sums the religious right up perfectly, &#8220;hate is not a family value!&#8221;</p>
<p>If you cannot stand the heat, you should get out of the kitchen.</p>
<p>Michael Boswell</p>
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		<title>By: david skinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>david skinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 07:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Bill, Why should we be surprised about hatred from secularist and atheists? When we experience the sudden volcanic hatred from a normally self-controlled, highly intelligent, articulate and urbane person, screaming at us :-

&quot;I have never met such a narrow-minded bigot in all my life&quot; 

such blind rage is incomprehenisble apart from a spiritual force. Perhaps we forget that intellectual argument does not exist in a neutral territory; we inhabit a spiritual world. Beneath the cool, reasoned argument of the atheist lies an intense rebellion and shaking the fist against God. What else should we expect if we are proclaiming the truth and exposing lies?

David Skinner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Bill, Why should we be surprised about hatred from secularist and atheists? When we experience the sudden volcanic hatred from a normally self-controlled, highly intelligent, articulate and urbane person, screaming at us :-</p>
<p>&#8220;I have never met such a narrow-minded bigot in all my life&#8221; </p>
<p>such blind rage is incomprehenisble apart from a spiritual force. Perhaps we forget that intellectual argument does not exist in a neutral territory; we inhabit a spiritual world. Beneath the cool, reasoned argument of the atheist lies an intense rebellion and shaking the fist against God. What else should we expect if we are proclaiming the truth and exposing lies?</p>
<p>David Skinner</p>
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