Comments on: A Different Perspective on Abortion http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/09/01/a-different-perspective-on-abortion/ Bill Muehlenberg's commentary on issues of the day... Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:52:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: ilona http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/09/01/a-different-perspective-on-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-22732 ilona Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:07:13 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/09/01/a-different-perspective-on-abortion/#comment-22732 Agree we have a sex soaked culture. I was appalled at some christians in my home who wanted to have a priests and prostitutes party. To them it was a laughing matter. Yes, they are Sunday church going people, so what then is a Christian? Perhaps it's our youth groups that need to re look at what they are doing with young people. instead of being revelant by putting up smoke machines, low lighting and pounding music they might break up into small groups and get to know each other as people. This is the forum for debate on these issues. Sadly I have heard of youth walking out of these meetings to go and have their abortions. I used to take young Asian people along but no one bothered to get to know them so at age 61, I teach them over some food and fellowship at home initiated get togethers. Ilona Sturla Agree we have a sex soaked culture. I was appalled at some christians in my home who wanted to have a priests and prostitutes party. To them it was a laughing matter. Yes, they are Sunday church going people, so what then is a Christian?
Perhaps it’s our youth groups that need to re look at what they are doing with young people. instead of being revelant by putting up smoke machines, low lighting and pounding music they might break up into small groups and get to know each other as people. This is the forum for debate on these issues. Sadly I have heard of youth walking out of these meetings to go and have their abortions. I used to take young Asian people along but no one bothered to get to know them so at age 61, I teach them over some food and fellowship at home initiated get togethers.
Ilona Sturla

]]> By: ilona http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/09/01/a-different-perspective-on-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-22286 ilona Thu, 05 Jul 2007 04:30:48 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/09/01/a-different-perspective-on-abortion/#comment-22286 If we say God is unfair because we have disabled babies then I suggest our faith is shallow indeed. My response is to the recent survey mentioned by Jeremy when he said his congregation also felt they did not have clear biblical direction. I totally agree; it is only my studies through Bill that have afforded me any ground for discussion on the matter. Can we trust God in 'all' or is that just for book heroes like Paul and Jesus who lived a life of peace in the suffering? Space does not permit word definition but the bible is clear, God gives life. What right has man to play God and terminate something God starts? First we need to teach our children to take responsibility in everything they initiate. Then maybe this free for all in creating life without considering the outcomes may stop. Unwanted pregnancies are another way of shifting the buck, 'I refuse to be accountable, don't blame me, I will not be responsible for my actions.' Let's not deal with the issue when its too late. We call unwanted babies 'bastards'; what about the people who 'have their way' and shake their fists at God and others who warn them that 'their way' is the wrong way? Ilona Sturla If we say God is unfair because we have disabled babies then I suggest our faith is shallow indeed. My response is to the recent survey mentioned by Jeremy when he said his congregation also felt they did not have clear biblical direction. I totally agree; it is only my studies through Bill that have afforded me any ground for discussion on the matter. Can we trust God in ‘all’ or is that just for book heroes like Paul and Jesus who lived a life of peace in the suffering?
Space does not permit word definition but the bible is clear, God gives life. What right has man to play God and terminate something God starts?
First we need to teach our children to take responsibility in everything they initiate. Then maybe this free for all in creating life without considering the outcomes may stop. Unwanted pregnancies are another way of shifting the buck, ‘I refuse to be accountable, don’t blame me, I will not be responsible for my actions.’ Let’s not deal with the issue when its too late. We call unwanted babies ‘bastards’; what about the people who ‘have their way’ and shake their fists at God and others who warn them that ‘their way’ is the wrong way?
Ilona Sturla

]]> By: Jeremy Peet http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/09/01/a-different-perspective-on-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-692 Jeremy Peet Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:32:25 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/09/01/a-different-perspective-on-abortion/#comment-692 Amen Bill! My wish is that church leaders will preach such to their congregations. Just yesterday my wife was approaching congregation members to sign a petition against the Bracks plan to decriminalize abortion. 1 in 4 said they could not sign as they disagreed. We were stunned! The reasons given included an 'absence of clear biblical direction' and thinking of the 'unfairness' of disabled babies being allowed to be born and how bad that is. I'm going to seek a sermon on the topic including your article, Deut 5:17, Ps 51:5 and Ps 139 vs 13-16 in particular. Have you any other biblical references that may help? Jeremy Peet Amen Bill!

My wish is that church leaders will preach such to their congregations. Just yesterday my wife was approaching congregation members to sign a petition against the Bracks plan to decriminalize abortion. 1 in 4 said they could not sign as they disagreed.

We were stunned!

The reasons given included an ‘absence of clear biblical direction’ and thinking of the ‘unfairness’ of disabled babies being allowed to be born and how bad that is.

I’m going to seek a sermon on the topic including your article, Deut 5:17, Ps 51:5 and Ps 139 vs 13-16 in particular.

Have you any other biblical references that may help?

Jeremy Peet

]]> By: Nola Drum http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/09/01/a-different-perspective-on-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-691 Nola Drum Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:26:01 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/09/01/a-different-perspective-on-abortion/#comment-691 Dear Bill, once again an excellent article very pertinent to what many of us are thinking today about where the world is going. On 60 minutes last night journalists were showcasing an ancient tribe of cannibals they had found and congratulating themselves on how far we have come since the ancient societies but if we think about it have we progressed at all when we abort 100,000 of our babies in our country alone before they even come into the world and if we speak out about it we are 'discriminating' against women's rights! Nola Drum Dear Bill, once again an excellent article very pertinent to what many of us are thinking today about where the world is going. On 60 minutes last night journalists were showcasing an ancient tribe of cannibals they had found and congratulating themselves on how far we have come since the ancient societies but if we think about it have we progressed at all when we abort 100,000 of our babies in our country alone before they even come into the world and if we speak out about it we are ‘discriminating’ against women’s rights!

Nola Drum

]]> By: John Ballantyne http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/09/01/a-different-perspective-on-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-688 John Ballantyne Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:36:36 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/09/01/a-different-perspective-on-abortion/#comment-688 Great effort, Bill. This excellent article should be compulsory reading for all Christians, many of whom sometimes tend to skip over the "difficult" parts of the Old Testament. This article spells out, in a way that cannot possibly be misunderstood, how God does not allow infant sacrifice, abortion and other massacres of the innocents to go unpunished. When will Western nations wake up and put a stop to this evil? John Ballantyne, Melbourne Great effort, Bill. This excellent article should be compulsory reading for all Christians, many of whom sometimes tend to skip over the “difficult” parts of the Old Testament. This article spells out, in a way that cannot possibly be misunderstood, how God does not allow infant sacrifice, abortion and other massacres of the innocents to go unpunished.
When will Western nations wake up and put a stop to this evil?
John Ballantyne, Melbourne

]]> By: Madge Fahy http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/09/01/a-different-perspective-on-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-684 Madge Fahy Sun, 17 Sep 2006 02:42:13 +0000 http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/09/01/a-different-perspective-on-abortion/#comment-684 Congratulations Bill, another excellent article. One wonders why politicians and the like cannot see what fate they are imposing upon Australia when they support the killing of the most vulnerable of all human beings, while at the same time protest to other countries about the 'death penalty' for criminals. Keep up the good work. Madge Fahy, Victoria Congratulations Bill, another excellent article. One wonders why politicians and the like cannot see what fate they are imposing upon Australia when they support the killing of the most vulnerable of all human beings, while at the same time protest to other countries about the ‘death penalty’ for criminals.
Keep up the good work.

Madge Fahy, Victoria

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