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	<title>Comments on: A review of Changing Families. Edited by Justin Healey.</title>
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		<title>By: Frank Gashumba</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/05/31/a-review-of-changing-families-edited-by-justin-healey/comment-page-1/#comment-331</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Gashumba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill,

I most certainly commend that remnant of Christians such as yourself who are awake to the leavening responsibility of Christianity and are valiantly fighting the good fight, trying to rouse the Church from its slumber.

In a book I read recently, and which you&#039;ve reviewed, written by Alvin Schmidt and entitled &quot;How Christianity Changed the World&quot;, I was struck by the extent to which Christianity was responsible for even some of the things we would most take for granted and assume existed independently of Christianity. What particularly hit me was that something that I would have thought any society, whether influenced by Christianity or not, would have had the sense to do was not done with the Romans, which in their case was the (I should have thought) self-evident idea of separating male and female prisoners in jail.

But not until the Christians came along did it occur to them to do such a thing. To me, this goes to show the important -- indeed invaluable -- role Christians play in civilising and ameliorating the society around them. After all, they are the ones who have the light, who have been given the truth.

And if they choose to remain within the four walls of their church, hiding their light under a bushel of pietistic irrelevence, then they should not be surprised at the crumbling world around them, and should soon expect to be &quot;cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.&quot;

Francis Gamba, Melbourne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,</p>
<p>I most certainly commend that remnant of Christians such as yourself who are awake to the leavening responsibility of Christianity and are valiantly fighting the good fight, trying to rouse the Church from its slumber.</p>
<p>In a book I read recently, and which you&#8217;ve reviewed, written by Alvin Schmidt and entitled &#8220;How Christianity Changed the World&#8221;, I was struck by the extent to which Christianity was responsible for even some of the things we would most take for granted and assume existed independently of Christianity. What particularly hit me was that something that I would have thought any society, whether influenced by Christianity or not, would have had the sense to do was not done with the Romans, which in their case was the (I should have thought) self-evident idea of separating male and female prisoners in jail.</p>
<p>But not until the Christians came along did it occur to them to do such a thing. To me, this goes to show the important &#8212; indeed invaluable &#8212; role Christians play in civilising and ameliorating the society around them. After all, they are the ones who have the light, who have been given the truth.</p>
<p>And if they choose to remain within the four walls of their church, hiding their light under a bushel of pietistic irrelevence, then they should not be surprised at the crumbling world around them, and should soon expect to be &#8220;cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.&#8221;</p>
<p>Francis Gamba, Melbourne</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/05/31/a-review-of-changing-families-edited-by-justin-healey/comment-page-1/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 04:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Frank
I agree that the church has much to answer for in our decadent and morally vacuous West. We have not been doing our job, and have often not lived lives that are any different to our non-religious neighbours. Too many of us have simply been asleep at the wheel: apathetic and indifferent, while the world around us goes down the tubes big time. So believers are much at fault here, and we do need a wake up call to get us back on track.

Having said that, however, I would not minimize the fact that there are activist groups out there that are fully determined to see the destruction of everything we hold near and dear. There are groups and individuals out there who really do hate marriage and family, and are doing their best to wreck these institutions. There are those who want to get our children hooked on destructive drugs. There are those who do despise the sanctity of life, and want to push pro-death policies on us world-wide. There are those who despise the Western way of life and want to see it destroyed and replaced by an undemocratic rule.

And many of these groups are really about money. The pro-abortion crowd is really about big bucks. The pro-drug crowd is about making big money. The pro-pornography crowd is about getting rich off of other’s addictions, and so on.

So you are quite right to say that believers are in many ways to blame. We have not gotten involved in the battles of the day. And that is to our great shame. But let us also remember that there are those out there who are working full time to see the upheaval of faith and values that so many of us hold so dear.

Thus you bring us a helpful reminder, and help bring balance as we think about the strife we find ourselves in.

Bill Muehlenberg. CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Frank<br />
I agree that the church has much to answer for in our decadent and morally vacuous West. We have not been doing our job, and have often not lived lives that are any different to our non-religious neighbours. Too many of us have simply been asleep at the wheel: apathetic and indifferent, while the world around us goes down the tubes big time. So believers are much at fault here, and we do need a wake up call to get us back on track.</p>
<p>Having said that, however, I would not minimize the fact that there are activist groups out there that are fully determined to see the destruction of everything we hold near and dear. There are groups and individuals out there who really do hate marriage and family, and are doing their best to wreck these institutions. There are those who want to get our children hooked on destructive drugs. There are those who do despise the sanctity of life, and want to push pro-death policies on us world-wide. There are those who despise the Western way of life and want to see it destroyed and replaced by an undemocratic rule.</p>
<p>And many of these groups are really about money. The pro-abortion crowd is really about big bucks. The pro-drug crowd is about making big money. The pro-pornography crowd is about getting rich off of other’s addictions, and so on.</p>
<p>So you are quite right to say that believers are in many ways to blame. We have not gotten involved in the battles of the day. And that is to our great shame. But let us also remember that there are those out there who are working full time to see the upheaval of faith and values that so many of us hold so dear.</p>
<p>Thus you bring us a helpful reminder, and help bring balance as we think about the strife we find ourselves in.</p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg. CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Carson</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/05/31/a-review-of-changing-families-edited-by-justin-healey/comment-page-1/#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a cultural anthropologist but I took some courses in it when I did a BA - human culture testifies (universally, as far as I am aware) to male-female marriage and the family being in existence for as long as man has been around. Whilst some cultures have practiced polyandry and polygyny, they have governed male-female marriage tightly and protected the family unit with complex marriage customs and strong legislation. Our modern Western culture is the only culture known that does not protect marriage and the family in those ways.

A more accurate introduction to &quot;Exploding the Nuclear Family&quot; might have been, Family is... something completely unfamiliar from the 70&#039;s no fault divorce, socially unaccountable parent-and-partner style unit that Kay Millican supports.

But then that statement wouldn&#039;t have fit the &quot;dreamtime utopia&quot; that Kay Millican and the sisterhood one day hope to live in.

Wynnum, QLD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a cultural anthropologist but I took some courses in it when I did a BA &#8211; human culture testifies (universally, as far as I am aware) to male-female marriage and the family being in existence for as long as man has been around. Whilst some cultures have practiced polyandry and polygyny, they have governed male-female marriage tightly and protected the family unit with complex marriage customs and strong legislation. Our modern Western culture is the only culture known that does not protect marriage and the family in those ways.</p>
<p>A more accurate introduction to &#8220;Exploding the Nuclear Family&#8221; might have been, Family is&#8230; something completely unfamiliar from the 70&#8242;s no fault divorce, socially unaccountable parent-and-partner style unit that Kay Millican supports.</p>
<p>But then that statement wouldn&#8217;t have fit the &#8220;dreamtime utopia&#8221; that Kay Millican and the sisterhood one day hope to live in.</p>
<p>Wynnum, QLD</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Gashumba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Gashumba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fault for such social decadence as this reviewed book represents and champions lies squarely at the feet of Christians. As Mat 5:13 says: &quot;Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.&quot;

Christians have lost their savour, choosing to focus on an internalised, &quot;personal&quot; faith rather than a Kingdom-advancing one, the victory of which Christ already secured in principle at Cavalry. Rather than pressing the crown rights of King Jesus in all areas of life, they spend their time navel-gazing, ignoring the culture sinking around them and so being &quot;good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.&quot;

The blame for the worsening decadence besetting our culture lies squarely at the feet of those who, possessing the light, have grown slack and negligent, hiding it instead under a bushel of static, inordinate experientialism. They ought to be reminded that God will hold them accountable for their culpable (in)action.

Francis Gamba, Melbourne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fault for such social decadence as this reviewed book represents and champions lies squarely at the feet of Christians. As Mat 5:13 says: &#8220;Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.&#8221;</p>
<p>Christians have lost their savour, choosing to focus on an internalised, &#8220;personal&#8221; faith rather than a Kingdom-advancing one, the victory of which Christ already secured in principle at Cavalry. Rather than pressing the crown rights of King Jesus in all areas of life, they spend their time navel-gazing, ignoring the culture sinking around them and so being &#8220;good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.&#8221;</p>
<p>The blame for the worsening decadence besetting our culture lies squarely at the feet of those who, possessing the light, have grown slack and negligent, hiding it instead under a bushel of static, inordinate experientialism. They ought to be reminded that God will hold them accountable for their culpable (in)action.</p>
<p>Francis Gamba, Melbourne</p>
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		<title>By: Jessie Ho</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/05/31/a-review-of-changing-families-edited-by-justin-healey/comment-page-1/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessie Ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 14:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The nuclear mum and dad style family was not a 50&#039;s invention, it was a creation from the beginning. God did no create two women nor two men, he created one man and one woman to procreate. When the natural fabric of society is tampered with, the outcome is loss of identitiy leading to searches in all the wrong places with no right answers. Do this to your kids and you will have a whole generation floundering like lost souls. To those that are hurt, its time to wake up and not let your past fester, go forth and seek the truth. The truth shall set you free, grant you freedom and love so that the legacy you leave behind is not hatred, rejection and confusion.

Jessie Ho</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nuclear mum and dad style family was not a 50&#8242;s invention, it was a creation from the beginning. God did no create two women nor two men, he created one man and one woman to procreate. When the natural fabric of society is tampered with, the outcome is loss of identitiy leading to searches in all the wrong places with no right answers. Do this to your kids and you will have a whole generation floundering like lost souls. To those that are hurt, its time to wake up and not let your past fester, go forth and seek the truth. The truth shall set you free, grant you freedom and love so that the legacy you leave behind is not hatred, rejection and confusion.</p>
<p>Jessie Ho</p>
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