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		<title>By: Jonathan Sarfati</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/05/18/decoding-the-code/comment-page-1/#comment-3676</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Sarfati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 02:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Christophobes who pontificate against Christians by saying that TDVC is just fiction are not sincere.  Imagine a novel that proclaimed that the Holocaust is a myth or that Martin Luther King, Jr. raped white girls, and that these claims were put in the mouth of an erudite professor or reputable historian. Such a book would be rightly condemned for being anti-Semitic or racist, and would not be given a free pass simply because it was fiction. Yet the secular media demands that Christians give Brown’s Christophobia this same acceptance.
Jonathan Sarfati, Brisbane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Christophobes who pontificate against Christians by saying that TDVC is just fiction are not sincere.  Imagine a novel that proclaimed that the Holocaust is a myth or that Martin Luther King, Jr. raped white girls, and that these claims were put in the mouth of an erudite professor or reputable historian. Such a book would be rightly condemned for being anti-Semitic or racist, and would not be given a free pass simply because it was fiction. Yet the secular media demands that Christians give Brown’s Christophobia this same acceptance.<br />
Jonathan Sarfati, Brisbane</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Magno</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/05/18/decoding-the-code/comment-page-1/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Magno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 11:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Historically speaking, the claims of Dan Brown are recycled and reused. These claims (e.g. Christ&#039;s mortality/humanity, unreliability of the Bible, etc.) have all been refuted and renounced to be false and untrue to the historical evidence of the Bible and Jesus Christ.

I don&#039;t know what you think about the movie though. In my opinion, I thought it was a dud! And not because of its outrageous, exagerated claims, but because it was...well...dry. I&#039;m hoping that the movie&#039;s dry, boring nature will put an end to this so-called phenomenon.

Paul Magno, Melbourne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Historically speaking, the claims of Dan Brown are recycled and reused. These claims (e.g. Christ&#8217;s mortality/humanity, unreliability of the Bible, etc.) have all been refuted and renounced to be false and untrue to the historical evidence of the Bible and Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what you think about the movie though. In my opinion, I thought it was a dud! And not because of its outrageous, exagerated claims, but because it was&#8230;well&#8230;dry. I&#8217;m hoping that the movie&#8217;s dry, boring nature will put an end to this so-called phenomenon.</p>
<p>Paul Magno, Melbourne</p>
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		<title>By: R J Stove</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/05/18/decoding-the-code/comment-page-1/#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>R J Stove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 04:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks for your clarification, Bill. I see your point. But I still reckon it doesn&#039;t outweigh the objective moral evil of attending the film in the first place.

If we knowingly give money to enrich the promoters of pernicious tripe, then I&#039;d have thought that we are ourselves helping to aid and abet such promoters. When powerful lay censorship movements against Hollywood existed from the 1930s to the 1960s, they didn&#039;t ascribe evangelistic value to the movies they condemned. They called for boycotts, full stop. And if anyone doesn&#039;t believe that boycotts were effective, read the history of &lt;em&gt;Baby Doll&lt;/em&gt; (an almost ludicrously mild film by modern standards), which was comprehensively boycotted on sexual grounds in the 1950s, when it came out. The boycott against it &lt;em&gt;hurt&lt;/em&gt; the makers of it.

Ultimately I reckon that if we&#039;re not in the business of &lt;em&gt;hurting&lt;/em&gt; present-day Hollywood, we might as well submit to its evils.

R J Stove. Melbourne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for your clarification, Bill. I see your point. But I still reckon it doesn&#8217;t outweigh the objective moral evil of attending the film in the first place.</p>
<p>If we knowingly give money to enrich the promoters of pernicious tripe, then I&#8217;d have thought that we are ourselves helping to aid and abet such promoters. When powerful lay censorship movements against Hollywood existed from the 1930s to the 1960s, they didn&#8217;t ascribe evangelistic value to the movies they condemned. They called for boycotts, full stop. And if anyone doesn&#8217;t believe that boycotts were effective, read the history of <em>Baby Doll</em> (an almost ludicrously mild film by modern standards), which was comprehensively boycotted on sexual grounds in the 1950s, when it came out. The boycott against it <em>hurt</em> the makers of it.</p>
<p>Ultimately I reckon that if we&#8217;re not in the business of <em>hurting</em> present-day Hollywood, we might as well submit to its evils.</p>
<p>R J Stove. Melbourne</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/05/18/decoding-the-code/comment-page-1/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 11:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Rob

On the several occasions where I did suggest that we might see the film, it was always with the proviso that we bring along a non-believing friend who may have already wanted to go see it, and then after the film, talk to him or her about the real Jesus, and the truth of the Biblical version of events. Thus my aim in mind was evangelistic and/or apologetic. Otherwise you are quite right. We do not need to expereice something firsthand before we can comment on it, or warn against it.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Rob</p>
<p>On the several occasions where I did suggest that we might see the film, it was always with the proviso that we bring along a non-believing friend who may have already wanted to go see it, and then after the film, talk to him or her about the real Jesus, and the truth of the Biblical version of events. Thus my aim in mind was evangelistic and/or apologetic. Otherwise you are quite right. We do not need to expereice something firsthand before we can comment on it, or warn against it.</p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: R J Stove</title>
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		<dc:creator>R J Stove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 11:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few points which the subject matter of the original post, as well as a few of the later comments, touches on might be worth raising here.

First, I&#039;m afraid I can&#039;t see the sense of us believers going to see the film at all. We don&#039;t need to taste cyanide ourselves in order to know that it&#039;s bad for us, do we? Don&#039;t need to walk out ourselves and sit in the middle of the road in order to know that oncoming traffic can kill us, do we? Surely the whole notion of us going to see the film is just one more example of the &quot;personal-experience-as-authority&quot; disease which is helping to kill Christendom.

Secondly, if only our vilification laws could be used to defend &lt;em&gt;us&lt;/em&gt;, rather than to defend (as they are being used to defend) our enemies, could we have any serious moral objection to their existence? I know I couldn&#039;t. I &lt;em&gt;want&lt;/em&gt; to make it illegal for Christ to be attacked in public. I &lt;em&gt;want&lt;/em&gt; the Andres Serranos and the smearers-of-the-Virgin-Mary-with-dung to do prison time.

R J Stove, Melbourne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few points which the subject matter of the original post, as well as a few of the later comments, touches on might be worth raising here.</p>
<p>First, I&#8217;m afraid I can&#8217;t see the sense of us believers going to see the film at all. We don&#8217;t need to taste cyanide ourselves in order to know that it&#8217;s bad for us, do we? Don&#8217;t need to walk out ourselves and sit in the middle of the road in order to know that oncoming traffic can kill us, do we? Surely the whole notion of us going to see the film is just one more example of the &#8220;personal-experience-as-authority&#8221; disease which is helping to kill Christendom.</p>
<p>Secondly, if only our vilification laws could be used to defend <em>us</em>, rather than to defend (as they are being used to defend) our enemies, could we have any serious moral objection to their existence? I know I couldn&#8217;t. I <em>want</em> to make it illegal for Christ to be attacked in public. I <em>want</em> the Andres Serranos and the smearers-of-the-Virgin-Mary-with-dung to do prison time.</p>
<p>R J Stove, Melbourne</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Muehlenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/05/18/decoding-the-code/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Muehlenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 13:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite right Steve. My feelings exactly.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite right Steve. My feelings exactly.</p>
<p>Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch</p>
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		<title>By: Stevie B</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/05/18/decoding-the-code/comment-page-1/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Stevie B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 13:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pat,

Regarding your question as to why Christians have not employed the Victorian vilification laws against the DVC.

My guess would be that the last thing Christians want to do is to bring legitimacy to these laws by using them to pursue their own vilification claims.

The sooner these laws are ammended / overturned the better, and not just for the sake of the Christians.

Steve Bergen, Melbourne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pat,</p>
<p>Regarding your question as to why Christians have not employed the Victorian vilification laws against the DVC.</p>
<p>My guess would be that the last thing Christians want to do is to bring legitimacy to these laws by using them to pursue their own vilification claims.</p>
<p>The sooner these laws are ammended / overturned the better, and not just for the sake of the Christians.</p>
<p>Steve Bergen, Melbourne</p>
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		<title>By: Danii Rizzo</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/05/18/decoding-the-code/comment-page-1/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>Danii Rizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 04:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there Bill,
I went and saw the movie and saw for myself the inconsistencies with history and certain artifacts. Funny that Da Vinci wrote 21st Century English - I thought he was Italian!
If this in itself is incorrect, it should testify to the errors of the underlying message and the extent of his distortion of the truth.

Danii Rizzo, Melbourne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there Bill,<br />
I went and saw the movie and saw for myself the inconsistencies with history and certain artifacts. Funny that Da Vinci wrote 21st Century English &#8211; I thought he was Italian!<br />
If this in itself is incorrect, it should testify to the errors of the underlying message and the extent of his distortion of the truth.</p>
<p>Danii Rizzo, Melbourne</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer Gear</title>
		<link>http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2006/05/18/decoding-the-code/comment-page-1/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Gear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 19:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not read the book but your review does press questions for me:

(1) Why does an author use some details from a major world religion (Christianity) and then spin off some fantastic imaginery picture that has little resemblance to that factual religion? I guess it&#039;s poetic licence, but it helps to confuse those who are not discerning.

(2) How can we use this literary invention to get to the facts about Christ and the heart of why He died?

I note that in the &quot;Decoding the code&quot; that you have had published in ON LINE Opinion, it has given rise to some antagonism and distortion of the Scriptures by secularists. That&#039;s to be expected and it does give opportunity for those who want to enter the apologetic &quot;lions&#039; den.&quot; However, with the reduced (nearly zero) emphasis on biblical theology in churches up my way, I think that apologetic engagement in the secular &quot;lions&#039; den&quot; will be the ministry of only a few.

I commend you for your Christ-honouring ministry of addressing contemporary issues from a biblical perspective. Cultural apologetics in this declining Australian culture will continue to face challenges of this nature.

Spencer Gear, Bundaberg, Qld.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not read the book but your review does press questions for me:</p>
<p>(1) Why does an author use some details from a major world religion (Christianity) and then spin off some fantastic imaginery picture that has little resemblance to that factual religion? I guess it&#8217;s poetic licence, but it helps to confuse those who are not discerning.</p>
<p>(2) How can we use this literary invention to get to the facts about Christ and the heart of why He died?</p>
<p>I note that in the &#8220;Decoding the code&#8221; that you have had published in ON LINE Opinion, it has given rise to some antagonism and distortion of the Scriptures by secularists. That&#8217;s to be expected and it does give opportunity for those who want to enter the apologetic &#8220;lions&#8217; den.&#8221; However, with the reduced (nearly zero) emphasis on biblical theology in churches up my way, I think that apologetic engagement in the secular &#8220;lions&#8217; den&#8221; will be the ministry of only a few.</p>
<p>I commend you for your Christ-honouring ministry of addressing contemporary issues from a biblical perspective. Cultural apologetics in this declining Australian culture will continue to face challenges of this nature.</p>
<p>Spencer Gear, Bundaberg, Qld.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Healy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 13:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill I want to ask why the Da Vinci Code has not been the subject of a searching investigation by the managers of Victoria&#039;s vilification laws.

The &#039;code&#039;, whether book or movie, ridicules the fundamentals of Christianity particularly that Jesus Christ was true God and true man, who preached a message of love built on truth.

He freely suffered a humiliating death to bring His message to fulfillment for the benefit of all humanity. His followers down the centuries have been prepared to also freely suffer humiliating deaths because they were unwilling to to reject Jesus&#039; message of truth and love.

While anyone may not accept Jesus&#039; message, the &#039;code&#039; attacks that message in a manner that has been harshly dealt with under the Victorian law in another case.

Is this Victorian law not to be used when the Christian message is attacked on a broad scale?

Pat Healy, Hamilton, Vic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill I want to ask why the Da Vinci Code has not been the subject of a searching investigation by the managers of Victoria&#8217;s vilification laws.</p>
<p>The &#8216;code&#8217;, whether book or movie, ridicules the fundamentals of Christianity particularly that Jesus Christ was true God and true man, who preached a message of love built on truth.</p>
<p>He freely suffered a humiliating death to bring His message to fulfillment for the benefit of all humanity. His followers down the centuries have been prepared to also freely suffer humiliating deaths because they were unwilling to to reject Jesus&#8217; message of truth and love.</p>
<p>While anyone may not accept Jesus&#8217; message, the &#8216;code&#8217; attacks that message in a manner that has been harshly dealt with under the Victorian law in another case.</p>
<p>Is this Victorian law not to be used when the Christian message is attacked on a broad scale?</p>
<p>Pat Healy, Hamilton, Vic.</p>
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